Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[GatewaySnayke]

I think people are so goo goo gah gah over how Obama speaks that they forget that public speaking isn't the most important thing in leading a nation..

Right, it's having good ideas. Unfortunately, Republicans have bad ideas.

[JG1982]

I know almost nothing about her so I don't have much of an opinion yet. But I agree with those who said that this choice effectively takes the primary argument McCain has been making against Obama right out of their hands. That rousing ovation that McCain received also takes out their second most consistent argument against Obama (his celebrity-status).

I think this pick does lend itself to some criticism of McCain's judgment because it doesn't make a lot of sense as a pick for the job of vice-president. Whether it's a good pick in terms of votes remains to be seen. When Mondale picked a relatively unknown woman for his running mate, a lot of people thought it would help him but it didn't help him at all.

I totally agree with your first point...

But because the republicans in Ohio cheered for McCain he now has celebrity status? Were they all supposed to sit on their hands?

Did you watch any of Obama's speech last night? I thought I was watching a cult meeting..

It borderline scared the hell outta me

[JG1982]

I think people are so goo goo gah gah over how Obama speaks that they forget that public speaking isn't the most important thing in leading a nation..

Right, it's having good ideas. Unfortunately, Republicans have bad ideas.

And young voters who are un-educated about the issues, when asked why they are voting for Obama, say "Because he's such an awesome speaker!"

Trust me, I work a ton with kids ages 18-25, and that's always one of the first things people say they love about Obama

That scares the crap outta me, because it shows NOTHING in the way on how he's going to lead a country

[GatewaySnayke]

Pat Buchanan:

Biggest political gamble I believe just about in American political history...that is not hyberbole. I can think of no choice of VP that approaches this.

A bigger political gamble than an elitist-arugla eating-Muslim radical-black supremist-inexperienced-community organizing-William Ayers loving-socialist black guy Barack Obama?? That's a pretty strong statement.

[GatewaySnayke]

I think people are so goo goo gah gah over how Obama speaks that they forget that public speaking isn't the most important thing in leading a nation..

Right, it's having good ideas. Unfortunately, Republicans have bad ideas.

And young voters who are un-educated about the issues, when asked why they are voting for Obama, say "Because he's such an awesome speaker!"

Trust me, I work a ton with kids ages 18-25, and that's always one of the first things people say they love about Obama

That scares the crap outta me, because it shows NOTHING in the way on how he's going to lead a country

Younger voters are impressionable. I'm less scared of people voting for Obama because of his rhetoric than people voting for McCain because Obama is black.

[Socnorb11]

I know almost nothing about her so I don't have much of an opinion yet. But I agree with those who said that this choice effectively takes the primary argument McCain has been making against Obama right out of their hands. That rousing ovation that McCain received also takes out their second most consistent argument against Obama (his celebrity-status).

I think this pick does lend itself to some criticism of McCain's judgment because it doesn't make a lot of sense as a pick for the job of vice-president. Whether it's a good pick in terms of votes remains to be seen. When Mondale picked a relatively unknown woman for his running mate, a lot of people thought it would help him but it didn't help him at all.

I totally agree with your first point...

But because the republicans in Ohio cheered for McCain he now has celebrity status? Were they all supposed to sit on their hands?

Did you watch any of Obama's speech last night? I thought I was watching a cult meeting..
It borderline scared the hell outta me

What was "cult-ish" about it?

[JG1982]

I know almost nothing about her so I don't have much of an opinion yet. But I agree with those who said that this choice effectively takes the primary argument McCain has been making against Obama right out of their hands. That rousing ovation that McCain received also takes out their second most consistent argument against Obama (his celebrity-status).

I think this pick does lend itself to some criticism of McCain's judgment because it doesn't make a lot of sense as a pick for the job of vice-president. Whether it's a good pick in terms of votes remains to be seen. When Mondale picked a relatively unknown woman for his running mate, a lot of people thought it would help him but it didn't help him at all.

I totally agree with your first point...

But because the republicans in Ohio cheered for McCain he now has celebrity status? Were they all supposed to sit on their hands?

Did you watch any of Obama's speech last night? I thought I was watching a cult meeting..
It borderline scared the hell outta me

What was "cult-ish" about it?

The crying, the chanting, etc.

All way, way, WAY, over the top..even for a DNC

[Socnorb11]

I think people are so goo goo gah gah over how Obama speaks that they forget that public speaking isn't the most important thing in leading a nation..

Right, it's having good ideas. Unfortunately, Republicans have bad ideas.

And young voters who are un-educated about the issues, when asked why they are voting for Obama, say "Because he's such an awesome speaker!"

Trust me, I work a ton with kids ages 18-25, and that's always one of the first things people say they love about Obama

That scares the crap outta me, because it shows NOTHING in the way on how he's going to lead a country

Of course it has something to do with it. Half the battle is having good ideas. The other half is convincing everyone else that they're good ideas.

[ghostrunner]

Pat Buchanan:

Biggest political gamble I believe just about in American political history...that is not hyberbole. I can think of no choice of VP that approaches this.

A bigger political gamble than an elitist-arugla eating-Muslim radical-black supremist-inexperienced-community organizing-William Ayers loving-socialist black guy Barack Obama?? That's a pretty strong statement.

Pat Buchanan's an idiot.

[JG1982]

I think people are so goo goo gah gah over how Obama speaks that they forget that public speaking isn't the most important thing in leading a nation..

Right, it's having good ideas. Unfortunately, Republicans have bad ideas.

And young voters who are un-educated about the issues, when asked why they are voting for Obama, say "Because he's such an awesome speaker!"

Trust me, I work a ton with kids ages 18-25, and that's always one of the first things people say they love about Obama

That scares the crap outta me, because it shows NOTHING in the way on how he's going to lead a country

Of course it has something to do with it. Half the battle is having good ideas. The other half is convincing everyone else that they're good ideas.

Unfortunatly, he lost the first half of the battle you mentioned