NFL Players : What's happened to game?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Hard to believe these guys think they need to rip the other guy's head off to make a tackle. Pro football did just fine for several decades without the necessity of violent helmet-to-helmet knockdowns.

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NEW YORK – NFL players are wondering what's happening to their game.
One day after the league said it will begin suspending players for illegal hits, many players are asking if this still is pro football.
Dallas Cowboys linebacker Bradie James suspects he will "be playing flag football in about five years."
Baltimore Ravens star linebacker Ray Lewis echoes those thoughts by saying "the game will be diluted very quickly."
The NFL imposed huge fines on three players — Pittsburgh's James Harrison, Atlanta's Dunta Robinson and New England's Brandon Meriweather — on Tuesday for dangerous and flagrant hits last weekend and warned that, starting with this week's games, violent conduct will be cause for suspension.

[Jocephus]

hard to think rationally when you are full of steroids

[Hungary Jack]

I think the NFL brass has realized that the game has a huge festering problem with concussions and brain trauma. They are taking what is arguably a cold turkey approach to legislate hard tackling out of the game in an attempt to make it safer. I have a hard time seeing the league change the way the game is played at its basic level.

[Socnorb11]

I can see both sides of it. I thought that a couple of the hits that got fined were actually legal hits. And quarterbacks are pampered.

Not to mention, it's a little hypocritical that pictures of the hits that drew fines were all available for sale through the NFL's website.

[Lesson]

James Harrison might retire because of this:

The Pittsburgh Steelers excused James Harrison from practice Wednesday as the Pro Bowl linebacker contemplated retirement, according to his agent.

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Harrison's agent Bill Parise said Wednesday his client is "very serious" about retiring after getting fined $75,000 for a hit that knocked Mohamed Massaquoi out of the Steelers' win over the Cleveland Browns. Harrison met Wednesday with Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, who excused his linebacker from the Steelers preparations for Sunday's game against the Dolphins.

"We wouldn't joke about this," Parise said. "This is a very serious issue. James is very concerned about how to play football. If James is going to be fined $75,000 for making a legal tackle, then how do you go play football? It's quite frustrating to James, to Coach Tomlin, to me, to everybody."

Asked how real these retirement threats were, Parise said, "We're working very hard to make sure that we make good decisions."

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Tomlin said he expects Harrison to return to practice on Thursday.

"We had a meeting this morning, he and I did. It was a very productive one," Tomlin said in a conference call with Miami reporters. "I thought part of being productive and moving forward was excusing him for today and coming back starting new tomorrow."

Asked if Harrison would return to the Steelers on Thursday or even at all this week, Parise said, "I sure hope so."

Harrison said Tuesday on Fox Sports Radio's "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" that he might consider retirement.

"I'm going to sit down and have a serious conversation with my coach tomorrow and see if I can actually play by NFL rules and still be effective," Harrison told guest host Judy McDonald. "If not, I may have to give up playing football."

Harrison was not penalized on the plays that resulted in Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs leaving the game with concussions.

The hit on Cribbs was deemed a legal hit because Cribbs, running out of the wildcat formation, was a runner in possession of the ball. Harrison's head-first hit of Massaquoi during a pass attempt drew the fine.

"I really truly hope it's something that can be done," said Harrison, a three-time Pro Bowl selection who was named The Associated Press' defensive player of the year in 2008. "But the way that things were being explained to me today and the reasoning for it, I don't feel I can continue to play and be effective and, like I say, not have to worry about injuring someone else or risking injury to myself."

Massaquoi's agent, Brian Ayrault, didn't think the league was tough enough on Harrison.

"Harrison has made $20 million over the past three years, and they only fined him $75,000?" he said. "To me, that's not going to be a deterrent. The Browns are probably going to be without a starter this week. I don't think that fine is a deterrent or fair to competitive balance.

"The punishment did not fit the crime."

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[cpebbles]

Good riddance. Don't let the door hit your girlfriend in the face on the way out.

[lukethedrifter]

That's really great that you're taking a stand, Mr Harrison. Except that the thing that they are trying to save is your brain and the brains of your fellow athletes. And your ability to walk.

I'm guessing that the NFL legal department is pushing because the inevitability of a massive lawsuit against the League for brain injuries resulting from such hits is rather obvious.

[Socnorb11]

I'm concerned too, but what do you guys suggest? Arm tackles only? No touching a receiver going across the middle? It is football, and people are going to get hurt........ that is the nature of the game. Some of those injuries might be serious. If you try to hit a guy low, then you might end his career...... if you try to hit a guy high, then you might end his career. I'm not sure what you're supposed to do in the heat of the moment when a receiver is flying across the middle of the field.

[cpebbles]

I know what you're not supposed to do: Lead with your helmet against his. He didn't get fined for a hard tackle or for going after a defenseless receiver, he got fined for going helmet-to-helmet.

Injuries are going to happen in football (And incidentally I would never let a child I was close to play football in a highly-competitive environment like Div I), but there are rules in place to prevent it from becoming flat-out bloodshed, and Harrison doesn't think he can play within the confines of those rules.

[Socnorb11]

I know what you're not supposed to do: Lead with your helmet against his. He didn't get fined for a hard tackle or for going after a defenseless receiver, he got fined for going helmet-to-helmet.

Injuries are going to happen in football (And incidentally I would never let a child I was close to play football in a highly-competitive environment like Div I), but there are rules in place to prevent it from becoming flat-out bloodshed, and Harrison doesn't think he can play within the confines of those rules.

I mostly agree with you, cpebbles. But don't you think it's a fine line? I mean, if you are running toward a player, isn't your helmet kinda going to be leading the way? Even if you are trying to hit with the shoulder, and the runner darts a little to one direction, then you're suddenly head-on.

I'm not necessarily talking about Harrison, because his did seem a little severe (although I'm not as convinced as some here). I'm just talking in general terms. It's a tough call, and not really black and white always.