Mizzou football 2010

[phins]

FWIW, I really appreciate the dialogue. Hopefully I'm not coming off as if I think I know more, most likely I don't, I've just studied his tape and evaluated him to how I feel at the next level. I'm usually pretty steadfast with my opinion until I see something that changes it.

I like Gabbert much more this year than I did at the start. He's really developed.

[lukethedrifter]

It really seems to me that for Gabbert it comes down to the thing that you really can't measure for certain in any potential NFL QB. Will he have the NFL level QB sense to stay calm, see the field and make the right decision? That question is really true for any aspiring NFL QB. It's a very inexact science esp since the speed and complexity of the NFL is so much greater.

[robbotis]

It really seems to me that for Gabbert it comes down to the thing that you really can't measure for certain in any potential NFL QB. Will he have the NFL level QB sense to stay calm, see the field and make the right decision? That question is really true for any aspiring NFL QB. It's a very inexact science esp since the speed and complexity of the NFL is so much greater.

I guess looking at it this way, Gabbert today, looks alot like Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and Joe Flacco heading into the draft. Good, but not record breaking college players. Has all the tools, looks the part, etc...

The problem is Tim Couch, Byron Leftwich, and Joey Harrington did too...

Picking a QB is tough.

[phins]

It really seems to me that for Gabbert it comes down to the thing that you really can't measure for certain in any potential NFL QB. Will he have the NFL level QB sense to stay calm, see the field and make the right decision? That question is really true for any aspiring NFL QB. It's a very inexact science esp since the speed and complexity of the NFL is so much greater.

I think Gabbert is very good at seeing the field. He stays calm, is able to avoid rushers, and then re-focus down the field. Not many have that. Mallet doesn't do that when I watch him. Newton looks to run and misses guys open down the field because of it. Jake Locker is terrible at this. Gabbert tends to get his eyes down field well, and make good decisions. Normally, if it's not there, he'll throw it away. The Iowa gaffe notwithstanding. I rarely feel like Gabbert had somewhere to go with the ball if he's thrown it away, and feel like his decision making is a is a plus skill for him.

He is going to have to improve his setup and mechanics. When his feet get out of whack, his accuracy gets scattershot. When his shoulders and hips aren't in sync, his deep passes go as JL described (a real weakness currently). If he gets going too fast, he gets a little loose with the ball, but it's fairly rare.

He's super tough, takes hits really well, and shows a lot of competitiveness. Winning that Oklahoma game was big. First time I ever remember a Mizzou team beating #1. he was fantastic in that game.

Has warts with his set up, footwork, and release mechanics, but the tools are there for greatness. Not close to Luck IMHO, but is on the level of a Matt Stafford coming out, and he went #1 in a weaker draft.

[lukethedrifter]

It really seems to me that for Gabbert it comes down to the thing that you really can't measure for certain in any potential NFL QB. Will he have the NFL level QB sense to stay calm, see the field and make the right decision? That question is really true for any aspiring NFL QB. It's a very inexact science esp since the speed and complexity of the NFL is so much greater.

I guess looking at it this way, Gabbert today, looks alot like Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and Joe Flacco heading into the draft. Good, but not record breaking college players. Has all the tools, looks the part, etc...

The problem is Tim Couch, Byron Leftwich, and Joey Harrington did too...

Picking a QB is tough.

a while back I posted a link to a Malcolm Gladwell article in which he discussed and compared predicting success as an NFL QB with predicting success as a teacher. Great article.

looks like it was 2 years back

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008 ... t_gladwell

[TheoSqua]

I think if Gabbart could have a career like Drew Bledsoe's he'd be pretty happy about that. Drew Bledsoe is a positive comparison in my book.

Also, Phins, Bledsoe was fairly mobile in his early years. He averaged two rushing attempts per game through his career and have a few years around 3 rushing attempts/game. He wasn't necessarily a GOOD mobile QB, but there's a lot of questions about Gabbert's decision making on the run as well.

Either way, if Miami can draft the next Drew Bledsoe that's a pretty good pick.

I feel like you missed the point.

If Miami got a QB who had a career like Bledsoe, I'd be ecstatic. Bledsoe is on the short list of just missed Hall of Famers.

My point is that Bledsoe doesn't seem similar to Gabbert as a player. Gabbert will run in that 4.6-4.7 area, and has decent agility. Bledsoe was never anywhere near that mobile, had a stronger arm, threw more over the top, had a longer, slower release, and was a different type of player.

It's not really a big deal, but what the hell... we're arguing on the internet here.

Gabbert: 6-5 235
Bledsoe: 6-5 238

Stance:


Obviously no two players are identical. Bledsoe ended up being less mobile and more of a deep passer, where Gabbert may not. They have different arms and passing mechanics, but their build types and athleticism coming into the NFL are uncannily similar.

[lukethedrifter]

and their number.

[robbotis]

KFNS just had some draft guru on. Forget the name, he's on weekly.
Anyway, he's high on Gabbert. Says he's clearly the #2 QB behind Luck. He said Gabbert has the best, and fastest release he's seen since Jeff George.
Says the Rams would get a steal if they get Mark Ingram in the 1st round, he's the #1 RB on his organazations board.

[JL21]

As usual, Rock M Nation comes through with huge info on the new QB's. A quick snippet re: Franklin:

Bill C.: Depending on which information you choose to process, it isn’t difficult to see Missouri’s offense, as it is currently constituted, running just as smoothly under James Franklin as under Blaine Gabbert. The zone reads and options that are a staple of the offense will likely be more effective with Franklin -- with limited sample size in 2010, they already were. The underneath and sideline passes will likely still be there. For an offense much more reliant on efficiency than explosiveness, the fact that Franklin does not have the same caliber of hand cannon that Gabbert possesses should not be a significant hindrance.

Read the rest at http://www.rockmnation.com/2011/1/5/191 ... arterbacks

[BigDCardlvr]

As usual, Rock M Nation comes through with huge info on the new QB's. A quick snippet re: Franklin:

Bill C.: Depending on which information you choose to process, it isn’t difficult to see Missouri’s offense, as it is currently constituted, running just as smoothly under James Franklin as under Blaine Gabbert. The zone reads and options that are a staple of the offense will likely be more effective with Franklin -- with limited sample size in 2010, they already were. The underneath and sideline passes will likely still be there. For an offense much more reliant on efficiency than explosiveness, the fact that Franklin does not have the same caliber of hand cannon that Gabbert possesses should not be a significant hindrance.

Read the rest at http://www.rockmnation.com/2011/1/5/191 ... arterbacks

Franklin has enuf arm to throw 50 yards in the air and hit a receiver. He has enuf quickness to get to the outside and enuf power for the short yardage. He also has a great head on his shoulders and the ability to keep things in perspective. He won't get to high, nor to low. He recognizes that he could have benefitted with another year under Gabbert, and knows the pressure is on him now. He'll be fine once he starts getting back into it and is taking reps as the no1 qb.

And with all the weapons they'll have on offense, they'll be fine. Maybe a bump or two this year, but 2012 could be pretty dang good.