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And Rolen played well during that time as well. Both hurting their former team.

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Ludwick will require surgery

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Are labrum injuries the death sentence for hitters as they are for pitchers?

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Wishing Luddy a speedy recovery. Always been a fan of his, even as a Red.

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rotoworld wrote:
Marlins sent 3B Zack Cox outright to Double-A Jacksonville.
Cox was a first-round pick of the Cardinals in 2010, so it says a lot about his prospect status that he was able to pass through waivers unclaimed. The 23-year-old batted just .254/.301/.409 with 10 homers between Double- and Triple-A last season.

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I read recently, I think it was on SB Nation, that the Cardinal organization seems to have a real knack for knowing which players to hold on to, and especially which hitters. Think about the young hitters we've given away in trades--Cox, Daric Barton, Brett Wallace, and yup, Colby Rasmus. Hitters and pitchers, go back a decade or so and probably the only trade that we really regret is Dan Haren.

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How long is Luddy expected out for? That seems like he'll be out way longer then a few weeks like was originally expected.

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~ 3 months

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Vidor wrote:I read recently, I think it was on SB Nation, that the Cardinal organization seems to have a real knack for knowing which players to hold on to, and especially which hitters. Think about the young hitters we've given away in trades--Cox, Daric Barton, Brett Wallace, and yup, Colby Rasmus. Hitters and pitchers, go back a decade or so and probably the only trade that we really regret is Dan Haren.
I agree with you entirely, our management has a very good track record on keeping the right prospects and trading the wrong ones. Only a few exceptions I can think of where we probably would've been better off keeping the prospect:

-Covelli Crisp (ship of fools!) for Chuck Finley (We really needed a starter that year, and Finley did pretty well for us. I think we were trying to convince him to come back for another season but he decided to retire. Crisp has only been a fringe starting outfielder overall for his career, so not that huge of a loss)
-Chris Perez for Mark DeRosa (in fairness, this would've been a fine deadline deal if DeRosa hadn't messed up his wrist the first week after the trade, while Perez has been a good but pretty replaceable reliever)
-Luke Gregerson (traded for Khalil Greene. Oops)

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Mulder for Haren qualifies as giving up the wrong prospect. But it would've been a fine deal since Mulder's 2005 season was good, if he didn't get hurt and no longer be able to pitch effectively.

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