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Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 7:56 am
by CardsofSTL
thrill wrote: ↑August 11 21, 7:54 am
G. Keenan wrote: ↑August 10 21, 7:42 pm
Arthur Dent wrote: ↑August 10 21, 4:28 pm
thrill wrote: ↑August 9 21, 9:11 am
Voyager is very pure Trek.
Really? I feel the opposite. Voyager felt like the series where Star Trek became a setting, but the core was missing. It felt like just one damned thing after another to me. Viewed as just a space adventure series, it’s decent, but I feel like it’s lacking as Star Trek.
Enterprise is the better series, IMO.
I'd agree, but still did enjoy Voyager as a space adventure series and it does have some very high points. I would rank it behind both TNG (1) and DS9 (2).
Voyager did some fun stuff with inter-dimensionality and a lot with time travel and making first contact with lots of new races, some more advanced than any known in the alpha quadrant. It definitely doesn't have as many think pieces as TNG, maybe less the DS9 even. It's very plot-driven and does less noodling around with sci fi tropes.
I feel like the writers left a lot on the table by not giving Janeway a love interest. Both Picard and Sisko had them and the writers used those plots to develop Picard and Sisko beyond their role as captain. Janeway doesn't really get that. They give us a little bit of info about her past, but otherwise she's pretty much all business all the time.
Hmm. I don't disagree with any of this. I think what I'm saying is that the series having the constant, singular goal of getting home, provided a clarity and consistency to the series that lead to fewer misfires and experimentation. Way less duds.
Threshold though.
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 7:57 am
by thrill
Threshold is as bad an episode of any Trek, ever, and it also gave Janeway a love interest (gecko Tom), so it's sort of the exception that proves the rule.
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 8:02 am
by CardsofSTL
thrill wrote: ↑August 11 21, 7:57 am
Threshold is as bad an episode of any Trek, ever, and it also gave Janeway a love interest (gecko Tom), so it's sort of the exception that proves the rule.
So you're saying everyone talking about how Janeway didn't have a love interest has blocked her salamander babies out of their memories?
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 8:05 am
by thrill
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 8:08 am
by CardsofSTL
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 9:02 am
by G. Keenan
Ha! I had completely forgotten about that. I retract my Janeway never got a love interest comment. She had at least 3 by my count now:
1) Salamander Tom
2) Holodeck Irish guy
3) Power plant coworker
Did I miss any others?
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 9:30 am
by CardsofSTL
G. Keenan wrote: ↑August 11 21, 9:02 am
Ha! I had completely forgotten about that. I retract my Janeway never got a love interest comment. She had at least 3 by my count now:
1) Salamander Tom
2) Holodeck Irish guy
3) Power plant coworker
Did I miss any others?
Chakotay did make her a bath tub when they thought they were going to be stranded on that planet that one time. They probably did the deed; explains why he stopped pursuing her and went after some Borg tail.
Edit to say also that creepy Italian alien guy from the pleasure planet who wouldn't share the portal technology that could take them halfway back to the alpha quadrant
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 5:41 pm
by AdmiralKird
There's the guy who is the SS inspector looking for telepaths through that one region of space.
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 11 21, 6:14 pm
by CardsofSTL
So Janeway just didn't do relationships. She was the new Kirk.
Re: Every Year is the Year of Star Trek
Posted: August 19 21, 8:51 am
by Jocephus
