Watching Weaver's start on GameDay Live...

Richie Allen · Post by **Richie Allen** » April 17 07, 10:54 pm

Leroy wrote:Call me callous, but I didn't like Weaver before he came, so I don't like him now. I'll always be glad for what he did there at the end, but he has shown at several stops that he just isn't that good.

I wish nothing but good for Suppan though, except against us.

I'm with you on both counts. Although it wouldn't break my heart if Sup struggled a bit this year. I definitely find myself rooting against Weaver.

DynamicDynamite · Post by **DynamicDynamite** » April 17 07, 11:37 pm

thats the whole reason I felt like putting this on here... Rooting against Weaver is one thing that made today better for me after the sorry loss the Cardinals had...

cabby7588 · Post by **cabby7588** » April 17 07, 11:52 pm

It's kind of bitter sweet. I really love the effort and energy the guy brough to the playoffs, but he just made a terrible decision to go to Seattle.

cabby7588 · Post by **cabby7588** » April 17 07, 11:54 pm

As much as we all root against Weaver, wouldn't we all give him a hand if he came back to Busch for a game? I know I would.

Richie Allen · Post by **Richie Allen** » April 18 07, 12:01 am

cabby7588 wrote:As much as we all root against Weaver, wouldn't we all give him a hand if he came back to Busch for a game? I know I would.

He played a key role in our post season success and I think we'll all remember that. I rooted for him last year and was interested in keeping him in 2007. His departure, however, and the way it went down, combined with my prior dislike of him makes it somewhat easy for me to root against him at this point. I can't say for sure if I'd be in on that ovation. I'd probably be one of those booing, although with a smile on my face.

DynamicDynamite · Post by **DynamicDynamite** » April 18 07, 12:09 am

Richie Allen wrote:
cabby7588 wrote:As much as we all root against Weaver, wouldn't we all give him a hand if he came back to Busch for a game? I know I would.
He played a key role in our post season success and I think we'll all remember that. I rooted for him last year and was interested in keeping him in 2007. His departure, however, and the way it went down, combined with my prior dislike of him makes it somewhat easy for me to root against him at this point. I can't say for sure if I'd be in on that ovation. I'd probably be one of those booing, although with a smile on my face.

I think im in the same boat.. I was a fan of his for a while, and then when he kept making bad decision after bad decision cause of Boras that went away... He then came here in the dumpster trade last year and I felt it could be decent... he far out did my expectations, but he was nothing more than a 5 inning pitcher who did better(along with everyone else) come playoff time.

Then after the season he says he wants to stay in St. Louis and it wasnt about the money cause he wanted to have a few years staying somewhere without the money. Then he goes out and signs a 1 year deal for 3+ million more a year, and then says he was insulted by the offer he got money wise and that the Cardinals weren't loyal to him...

Would I give him an ovation? It's possible, but at the same time Im not sure I could do it...

Secret Weapon · Post by **Secret Weapon** » April 18 07, 12:28 am

I like Weaver and wish him nothing but the best. I can't blame him for taking a significantly more lucrative deal somewhere else, and really I blame Boras more than Weaver for what happened in the offseason.

Mary1966 · Post by **Mary1966** » April 18 07, 12:36 am

I went to this game. When the Mariners intentionally loaded the bases, I got a feeling that Hunter was going to launch one. When Weaver made the putout to end the inning, he flung the ball into the ground in disgust. I'll bet he was thinking, "#$%^& Scott Boras, I should have stayed in St. Louis!"

DynamicDynamite · Post by **DynamicDynamite** » April 18 07, 1:27 am

i dont think any of us are saying we like Scott Boras that are saying we dont care for Weaver... We are just people that are saying if Weaver truly wanted to stay here and everything as he was making it out to be that he could have fired Boras who was saying "well if they dont get us the money then we should do 'A' instead of 'B' "..

It wouldnt have been the first time that an agent had been fired... I think Gary Sheffield did that once, and so did Curt Schilling who are now their own agents...

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » April 18 07, 5:14 am

Leroy wrote:Call me callous, but I didn't like Weaver before he came, so I don't like him now. I'll always be glad for what he did there at the end, but he has shown at several stops that he just isn't that good.

I wish nothing but good for Suppan though, except against us.

I agree with everything here. I never liked Weaver, even when he was good for us.