Is race still an issue for NFL QBs?

[JCShutout]

What about Vick, Garrard, Freeman?

If you read the article you'll find that it's not the lack of black QBs but how many opportunities and how much criticism they get.

But aren't Vick and Freeman are being praised for their QB work? Maybe I'm missing the point, or maybe the point is to just stir stuff up for webpage hits.

I think it has way more to do with Black America's perception of how Black Americans are treated.

I didn't know that Jemele Hill spoke for Black America.

I'm inferring that you think my comment is baseless.

I'm inferring that when Rush Limbaugh talks about "Reverse Racism", he isn't seen as speaking for White America.

[lukethedrifter]

What about Vick, Garrard, Freeman?

If you read the article you'll find that it's not the lack of black QBs but how many opportunities and how much criticism they get.

But aren't Vick and Freeman are being praised for their QB work? Maybe I'm missing the point, or maybe the point is to just stir stuff up for webpage hits.

I think it has way more to do with Black America's perception of how Black Americans are treated.

I didn't know that Jemele Hill spoke for Black America.

I'm inferring that you think my comment is baseless.

I'm inferring that when Rush Limbaugh talks about "Reverse Racism", he isn't seen as speaking for White America.

Well, this isn't really about Rush Limbaugh. And Rush does speak for a lot of Americans for that matter.
Look, I get your point that there is no one African American voice. Nonetheless, let me give you a more recent example than OJ Simpson. If you did much asking around, I believe you'd find a far greater percentage of African Americans feel that Michael Vick got screwed in the dog fighting deal. Heck, he didn't kill babies like those damn abortionists.*
So you can mock my point all you want but I think you'd be wrong.


*this one comes from a very successful black businesswoman facebook friend of mine.

[JCShutout]

I think it has way more to do with Black America's perception of how Black Americans are treated.

I didn't know that Jemele Hill spoke for Black America.

I'm inferring that you think my comment is baseless.

I'm inferring that when Rush Limbaugh talks about "Reverse Racism", he isn't seen as speaking for White America.

Well, this isn't really about Rush Limbaugh. And Rush does speak for a lot of Americans for that matter.
Look, I get your point that there is no one African American voice. Nonetheless, let me give you a more recent example than OJ Simpson. If you did much asking around, I believe you'd find a far greater percentage of African Americans feel that Michael Vick got screwed in the dog fighting deal. Heck, he didn't kill babies like those damn abortionists.*
So you can mock my point all you want but I think you'd be wrong.


*this one comes from a very successful black businesswoman facebook friend of mine.

It isn't about Rush, but as an example, he speaks for "Conservative Americans", not "whites".

I've never asked African Americans about Mike Vick's dogfighting legal issues (mostly because I don't care about it). I'm really not sure what they would think or if they would care. I would guess there would be a large difference in perspectives (and level of apathy) between those who live on the street, those who have mental illness, those who have a college education, those who work in activist/community organizing jobs, those who have steady jobs and those who live paycheck to paycheck (etc etc). I'll bet I'd get just as many different answers on the question of how Black Americans are treated.

Is being black a unique experience? Yes. Does that influence people's opinions and perspectives? Yes. Does that give those who experience it a certain insight? Yes. Does that mean that an African American woman writing a sports article pondering the effect on Racism in the NFL speaks for Black America? I'd say no.

Is being white a unique experience? Yes? Does that influence people's opinions and perspectives? Yes. Does that give those who experience it a certain insight? Yes. Does that mean that a white woman writing a sports article pondering the effect on Racism in the NFL speaks for White America? I'd say no.

I'll give you one example concerning your example of the justice system. There are 5 times as many white drug users as black drug users. There are more blacks in jail on drug offenses than whites. So I can see a reason for suspicion concerning the justice system in general.

[lukethedrifter]

nevermind, black people don't think racism exists.

[JCShutout]

nevermind, black people don't think racism exists.

I don't follow your train of thought. I never said black people don't think racism exists. Of course many do. I gave a blatant example of racism in the justice system in my last post. If you think OJ and Vick controversies are good microcosms of understanding racism in America then I would disagree. Antiracism work is a diverse (no pun intended) area in which personal and systematic/organizational discrimination is analyzed.

[Sutter'sBeard]

I have a serious issue with the lack of black placekickers and punters in the NFL. I cannot wait for the day when we can celebrate the first black punter to appear in the Super Bowl.

Reggie Roby says you already saw it.

Did they refer to Reggie as an "athletic or natural born punter" when he played?

That dude kicked the crap out of the ball.