How NOT to address a Totally Avoidable Tragedy

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How NOT to address a Totally Avoidable Tragedy

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Thank goodness Notre Dame got some much-needed practice footage for the critical matchup with Tulsa this week...

Just a freak accident, that's all (according to the AD)...that puts my mind at ease...


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2845 ... ntimes.com

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Such a sad story since it was something completely preventable. The AD is either lying or the most oblivious moron in the world. Everyone knew the weather was going to be awful. At a minimum ND is going to have to hand this kid's family a massive check and fire the AD. I've seen some people try to blame the coach on this one, but I think this falls on the AD and this kid's direct boss.

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The golden dome is looking more like a cracked foundation lately.

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I think this one goes to Kelly more than the AD. And, I say that because I feel like he probably controlled where practice was/if there was a camera crew more so than the AD. Of course, I could be wrong, though.

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This one has me thinking, have I done enough to give my child the strength to not only do what is difficult physically but what is difficult socially/emotionally? That is, to stand up for herself and say no to an authority figure, or peer even, who has asked/demanded that you do something you believe unsafe.

I would imagine that Declan struggled with his obligation to his position and to ND while he was up there fearing for his life but clearly his survival instinct was telling him to get the hell down.

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the kid sent tweets when he was up in teh booth about how windy it was

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I just remember how horrible the Rashidi Wheeler death played out at Northwestern. The players were conducting an "unofficial" workout (training for a brutal conditioning test that everyone had to pass before camp), but somehow some conditioning coaches were there. NU Coach Randy Walker was nearly destroyed emotionally by Wheeler's death, but in the end he had to testify against him in the civil suit that followed, relying on the University's defense that Wheeler had been using ephedra before the workout.

NU settled with Rashidi's mom for $16M. I imagine the settlement at Notre Dame will be quicker, larger, and more secret.

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lukethedrifter wrote:This one has me thinking, have I done enough to give my child the strength to not only do what is difficult physically but what is difficult socially/emotionally? That is, to stand up for herself and say no to an authority figure, or peer even, who has asked/demanded that you do something you believe unsafe.

I would imagine that Declan struggled with his obligation to his position and to ND while he was up there fearing for his life but clearly his survival instinct was telling him to get the hell down.
That's what I don't understand. When I was 20 I would have had no problem telling someone to kiss my ass if they were trying to make me do something that dangerous. I would have never done a job like that in the first place (especially for such low pay) so I assume people that do videography for the football team would be pretty loyal. But you don't have to be trained or an expert in anything to know that getting up in something like that lift in strong wind is a terrible idea. It's just common sense.

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cardsfansince82 wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:This one has me thinking, have I done enough to give my child the strength to not only do what is difficult physically but what is difficult socially/emotionally? That is, to stand up for herself and say no to an authority figure, or peer even, who has asked/demanded that you do something you believe unsafe.

I would imagine that Declan struggled with his obligation to his position and to ND while he was up there fearing for his life but clearly his survival instinct was telling him to get the hell down.
That's what I don't understand. When I was 20 I would have had no problem telling someone to kiss my ass if they were trying to make me do something that dangerous. I would have never done a job like that in the first place (especially for such low pay) so I assume people that do videography for the football team would be pretty loyal. But you don't have to be trained or an expert in anything to know that getting up in something like that lift in strong wind is a terrible idea. It's just common sense.
I don't know....I imagine to ND fans, Brian Kelly is a pretty big deal and probably someone you don't want to cross. Just imagine if you were a 20 year old and Albert Pujols asked you to pitch batting practice to him while he was working on hitting them up the middle, but the net distracted him. [expletive], I'd probably still do it and I'm no where near as excitable.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:I don't know....I imagine to ND fans, Brian Kelly is a pretty big deal and probably someone you don't want to cross. Just imagine if you were a 20 year old and Albert Pujols asked you to pitch batting practice to him while he was working on hitting them up the middle, but the net distracted him. [expletive], I'd probably still do it and I'm no where near as excitable.
pretty much where I'm at

and for that kid to have that job, I'm going to guess he was just thrilled to have some involvement with the team

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