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Popeye_Card wrote:No, I would not consider it a choke job. They played with them, matched their play. Goalie play was about equal.

It's hockey. Goals happen.

Good game though. Refs let them play.

That's what I meant by choked.

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This team doesn't have enough offensive talent to put games away. We're going to see a lot of close games and a lot of blown leads, not because they "choked" but because that's what happens in 1 and 2 goal games. An overtime loss to the Blackhawks in Chicago is not the worst outcome, but they had a 2 goal lead with 6 minutes left in the 3rd period. They need to win games like that.

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OK, I guess. I'm not really sure what you're driving at.

Choking when it comes to hockey, IMO, is letting the pressure of a situation get to you, and you fundamentally change how you play your game in a negative way. You start thinking too much about your positioning etc. to make a good play, and the speed of the game passes you by. I'm guessing that there probably was not enough pressure in the 5th game of the season where players were really getting worried about blowing a lead.

Last night's game doesn't concern me at all. I was happy to pick up a point. Saturday's game where the Blues were held without a goal for 60+ minutes against an average at best defense/goalie was a bit more concerning, along with Conklin not being able to stop a single shootout attempt.

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Popeye_Card wrote:Conklin not being able to stop a single shootout attempt.
They need to pull Conklin and put in a cold Halak for shootouts. That was pathetic and it wasn't a fluke. Among goalies who have competed in at least 10 shootouts Conklin is second to last (just ahead of Curtis Sanford) in SV% at .521. Average is .674. Halak is tied for 8th best at .744. The coaching staff should know these things.

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Popeye_Card wrote:OK, I guess. I'm not really sure what you're driving at.

Choking when it comes to hockey, IMO, is letting the pressure of a situation get to you, and you fundamentally change how you play your game in a negative way. You start thinking too much about your positioning etc. to make a good play, and the speed of the game passes you by. I'm guessing that there probably was not enough pressure in the 5th game of the season where players were really getting worried about blowing a lead.

Last night's game doesn't concern me at all. I was happy to pick up a point. Saturday's game where the Blues were held without a goal for 60+ minutes against an average at best defense/goalie was a bit more concerning, along with Conklin not being able to stop a single shootout attempt.
Sorry. Not really trying to be obtuse just cleverly ironic. I thought ICE was full of poop saying the Blues choked.

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lukethedrifter wrote:I thought ICE was full of poop saying the Blues choked.
Sorry, I thought that was just generally accepted.

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longhornbaseball wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:Conklin not being able to stop a single shootout attempt.
They need to pull Conklin and put in a cold Halak for shootouts. That was pathetic and it wasn't a fluke. Among goalies who have competed in at least 10 shootouts Conklin is second to last (just ahead of Curtis Sanford) in SV% at .521. Average is .674. Halak is tied for 8th best at .744. The coaching staff should know these things.
I'm sure they're well aware of it, but it's considered a pretty big insult in hockey to pull the goalie like that. So unless Conk volunteers it i'm not sure management would do that.

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TheoSqua wrote:I'm sure they're well aware of it, but it's considered a pretty big insult in hockey to pull the goalie like that. So unless Conk volunteers it i'm not sure management would do that.
When you suck as bad as him you should expect it. Feelings are nice but winning should supersede them.

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