Rave: College Football is Back Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stlouie_lipp]

Go Irish?

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Is there a lot of overlap between White Sox fans and Notre Dame fans?

I LOL'd

[StL Dan]

Nice game for KU.

[JoeMcKim]

Boise State looked really good against a top quality team like VT. But for any chance to be playing in the BCS championship game they'll need to go undefeated and have no more then 1 team from one of the power conferences to go undefeated. If there is 2 teams from a power conference that are undefeated then no chance they'll put Boise State in that game.

[vinsanity]

Boise State looked really good against a top quality team like VT. But for any chance to be playing in the BCS championship game they'll need to go undefeated and have no more then 1 team from one of the power conferences to go undefeated. If there is 2 teams from a power conference that are undefeated then no chance they'll put Boise State in that game.

What bugs me is say Florida wins every game up to the Bama game, and beats Bama. They'd likely leapfrog Boise cause they beat a #1 or #2 team and Bama won't slip far because they lost to a top 10 team. But Boise just beat a top 10 team while Bama beat a cupcake but the voters won't 'punish' a team for losing.

So Boise beats a top power conference team, stays the same. But if another undefeated power conference team beats Bama or OSU, they'll get to leap frog Boise.

[lukethedrifter]

If Va Tech goes on to win the ACC that will certainly help BSU's cause.

Here's a WaPo article about the Broncos' chance at a title shot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06651.html


I think you guys might be underestimating the bona fides Boise has gained with voters over the last several seasons.

[vinsanity]

If Va Tech goes on to win the ACC that will certainly help BSU's cause.

Here's a WaPo article about the Broncos' chance at a title shot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06651.html


I think you guys might be underestimating the bona fides Boise has gained with voters over the last several seasons.

College football lost its right to yammer about tradition when it spent the summer tearing itself up and putting itself back together again, sort of. The BCS allowed its conferences to strip each other for parts; it can't cry foul, then, when an upstart wants to crash its party.

I liked that point in the article. Good read. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Who uses "tradition" as a reason Boise St. and the like shouldn't get BCS berths? The opposition is pretty clearly tied to half their schedule being the Montana School for Ranchers and the Cheyenne Institute for Building a Better Buffalo.

[vinsanity]

Who uses "tradition" as a reason Boise St. and the like shouldn't get BCS berths? The opposition is pretty clearly tied to half their schedule being the Montana School for Ranchers and the Cheyenne Institute for Building a Better Buffalo.

The quote is a little out of context, I think it was more in reference to a playoff system than why Boise shouldn't be in a BCS game.

Though San Jose St, Miami (OH) and St. Mary's School for the blind aren't much better for some of the football factories, not that the WAC has any talent like the top of the SEC, but most top schools won't schedule a top team like Boise for non-conference games, so I'm not sure how much you can fault them.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Who uses "tradition" as a reason Boise St. and the like shouldn't get BCS berths? The opposition is pretty clearly tied to half their schedule being the Montana School for Ranchers and the Cheyenne Institute for Building a Better Buffalo.

The quote is a little out of context, I think it was more in reference to a playoff system than why Boise shouldn't be in a BCS game.

Though San Jose St, Miami (OH) and St. Mary's School for the blind aren't much better for some of the football factories, not that the WAC has any talent like the top of the SEC, but most top schools won't schedule a top team like Boise for non-conference games, so I'm not sure how much you can fault them.

Even in reference to a playoff, I don't think there's really anyone saying that all the spots should have to go to BCS teams.

And it's not Boise State's fault, they try their best to schedule some good opponents(although they should probably do a little less with the MAC), but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean they necessarily deserve a spot at year's end.

[vinsanity]

Even in reference to a playoff, I don't think there's really anyone saying that all the spots should have to go to BCS teams.

Heh, I think he was saying one of the arguments against a playoff system is tradition. Here's the two paragraphs:

And anyone who wants to trade the BCS system for a playoff should be jumping on the Broncos' bandwagon as well. If Boise State can run the table, it's the best argument yet for why the BCS is so flawed and unfair.

There are still a lot of detractors who say that, because of its WAC pedigree, Boise State doesn't deserve a shot. I don't buy that. College football lost its right to yammer about tradition when it spent the summer tearing itself up and putting itself back together again, sort of. The BCS allowed its conferences to strip each other for parts; it can't cry foul, then, when an upstart wants to crash its party.

I don't think it was very clearly written, but I took it as 'If you want a playoff root for Boise. One of the arguments against a playoff is tradition, but since Nebraska and Colorado jumped ship and other teams moved conferences as well the NCAA can't really use tradition as an argument against having a football playoff'. I may be reading it wrong though.

ust because it's not their fault doesn't mean they necessarily deserve a spot at year's end.

I guess this is a fair point, but I think they shouldn't be faulted for it either. When the Pac-10 or Big-10 has a down year, one team from the conference is still guaranteed a BCS spot and come sometimes sneak in to the Championship game (OSU did a few years ago). Boise can run the table and a 1 loss team could still likely make the Championship game before them.