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InvincibleCakeEater wrote:He's 25 and no longer wants to play for a [expletive] franchise that has only brought in [expletive] talent to surround him with. I really don't understand why he's supposed to be "loyal" to the Cavs, whatever that means. Again, he played there for 7 years and they surrounded him with [expletive]. Why should he just stick around hoping things will change? Because they drafted him?

Because the legacy he could have left there would have been among the greatest ever. Now, it will never happen. Again, he could have hitched onto a championship wagon later in his career......... he didn't have to do it in his prime. Now we will never know if he could have taken a team on his back and carried them to a championship.

He chose championships over legacy. That's his choice. Maybe he'll never regret it. Nobody respects him for it. Maybe he's OK with that, too.

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He chose championships over legacy. That's his choice. Maybe he'll never regret it. Nobody respects him for it. Maybe he's OK with that, too.
In S. Beach? Yeah, he's not going to regret that.

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He chose championships over legacy. That's his choice. Maybe he'll never regret it. Nobody respects him for it. Maybe he's OK with that, too.
In S. Beach? Yeah, he's not going to regret that.

He still lives in Ohio.

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InvincibleCakeEater wrote:He's 25 and no longer wants to play for a [expletive] franchise that has only brought in [expletive] talent to surround him with. I really don't understand why he's supposed to be "loyal" to the Cavs, whatever that means. Again, he played there for 7 years and they surrounded him with [expletive]. Why should he just stick around hoping things will change? Because they drafted him?
I don't know if you're addressing my posts, if not, then I apologize. I think you are making a mistake if you are equating the James criticism with people leveling it because he didn't stay in Cleveland.

To me, what has been most remarkable about the whole thing is the hit that his brand, am him personally, has taken was all his own doing. This isn't a mistress coming forward, a baby momma going to the press. It wasn't an arrest for DUI or getting in a fight. It's not some lawsuit from someone saying he sexually assaulted her. It was a staged event, on national television in prime time. It was all his own doing for not realizing that what he was doing, his own creation was dumb. He didn't know that it could only make him look stupid and couldn't make him look good no matter what he did. Oh, and for surrounding himself with high school buddies as advisers.

I'm guessing World Wide West is sitting somewhere smiling that he got pushed out of the LBJ circle. He can now go to the young players and say "see what happens when you push me out....you make image killing decisions".
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I love that. He chose Championships over legacy. A few months ago he was selfish and couldn't win because he had to be "the man." And now nobody respects him because he decided to play for a good team instead of a crappy one.

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InvincibleCakeEater wrote:I love that. He chose Championships over legacy. A few months ago he was selfish and couldn't win because he had to be "the man." And now nobody respects him because he decided to play for a good team instead of a crappy one.

I don't know who said he couldn't win because he had to be "the man", but I guess he'll never prove them wrong now.

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stlouie_lipp wrote: I'm guessing World Wide West is sitting somewhere smiling that he got pushed out of the LBJ circle. He can now go to the young players and say "see what happens when you push me out....you make image killing decisions".
It's been one day. If he goes on to win a few rings nobody is going to give a [expletive]. Look at Shaq. He bolts to LA wins some rings and nobody cares. His "legacy" isn't going to be that he couldn't get it done with Orlando so he cowardly signed with LA when he was a free agent. He's going to be a 4 time NBA Champion and one of the best big men to ever play the game.

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He chose championships over legacy. That's his choice. Maybe he'll never regret it. Nobody respects him for it. Maybe he's OK with that, too.
In S. Beach? Yeah, he's not going to regret that.

He still lives in Ohio.
Not for long I predict. I seriously can not imagine a better locale for a star professional athlete. The arena right there too. House on the water a mile a way, drive your Ferrari to the arena, play the game, and head to S. Beach for a nice dinner after the game.

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InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
stlouie_lipp wrote: I'm guessing World Wide West is sitting somewhere smiling that he got pushed out of the LBJ circle. He can now go to the young players and say "see what happens when you push me out....you make image killing decisions".
It's been one day. If he goes on to win a few rings nobody is going to give a [expletive]. Look at Shaq. He bolts to LA wins some rings and nobody cares. His "legacy" isn't going to be that he couldn't get it done with Orlando so he cowardly signed with LA when he was a free agent. He's going to be a 4 time NBA Champion and one of the best big men to ever play the game.
apples and oranges

but you're right about one thing. The best thing LBJ has going right now is that the NBA season doesn't start for a few months. The chatter about this will have surely died down by then. Guess we'll have to see how much it picks back up by then, I still think he hurt himself real bad with this whole thing.

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jim wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
He chose championships over legacy. That's his choice. Maybe he'll never regret it. Nobody respects him for it. Maybe he's OK with that, too.
In S. Beach? Yeah, he's not going to regret that.
What's your infatuation with Miami? I spent a summer there, you can keep it.

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