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Now that the Lebron Egomania Tour has concluded, when should we expect an announcement?

Or should we plan on some Favre-like drama for the next couple of weeks?

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Socnorb11 wrote:Now that the Lebron Egomania Tour has concluded, when should we expect an announcement?

Or should we plan on some Favre-like drama for the next couple of weeks?
I'm surprised at how quickly NBA Free Agency moves.

When is the deadline?

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So what's the latest FA buzz?

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I know there is a salary cap, is there a max you can give a player?

I find this whole thing weird. It seems like 2-3 players are basically deciding where the next NBA championship is going to be.

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I agree with this guy:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebr ... art-070510
Is this really necessary? Do you really need to see a PowerPoint presentation, a for-your-eyes-only cartoon or a deferential Russian billionaire to understand that a franchise is “committed to winning” and doing things “first class all the way.”

LeBron has been in the league seven years. He knows all about Chicago and Miami and New York. The restaurants, the rosters, cap space, it is all public knowledge.

But, hey, my reps don’t feel like Googling. Why don’t you have your entire front office hop on a plane to come sponge bathe me.

Dazzle me.

Show me what you’re willing to do for me.

Explain Amar'e Stoudemire’s latest Tweet for me.

That’s right, no team that hopes to have LeBron as the center of its universe can make any other move without worrying about its impact on his decision. So when Amar'e prematurely announced he was getting a max contract from the Knicks and would set to work luring Carmelo Anthony and Tony Parker to the Big Apple the Knicks had to quickly walk back and assure Team James that nothing had happened that couldn’t be rescinded should it not meet with the King’s liking.
If LeBron chooses to take a little more money and stay home then won’t this entire charade have just been an exercise in near Kim Jong Il megalomania?

I mean, how much groveling could you make someone do if you knew you were just going to say no?

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jim wrote:I know there is a salary cap, is there a max you can give a player?
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jim wrote:I know there is a salary cap, is there a max you can give a player?
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Socnorb11 wrote:
If LeBron chooses to take a little more money and stay home then won’t this entire charade have just been an exercise in near Kim Jong Il megalomania?

I mean, how much groveling could you make someone do if you knew you were just going to say no?
Is it really his fault if the media is this interested? I don't think exploring your options is 'meglomania'.

Though, the coverage and stuff seems a little blown out for something that seems less likely to happen.

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vinsanity wrote:
Is it really his fault if the media is this interested? I don't think exploring your options is 'meglomania'.

Though, the coverage and stuff seems a little blown out for something that seems less likely to happen.
If Lebron chooses to stay in Cleveland, do you really think there is anything that Chicago, Miami, New York or New Jersey could have POSSIBLY said to sway him? I think the answer is pretty clearly "no". By that reasoning, I think this whole thing was a waste of a lot of peoples' time.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
vinsanity wrote: Is it really his fault if the media is this interested? I don't think exploring your options is 'meglomania'.

Though, the coverage and stuff seems a little blown out for something that seems less likely to happen.
If Lebron chooses to stay in Cleveland, do you really think there is anything that Chicago, Miami, New York or New Jersey could have POSSIBLY said to sway him? I think the answer is pretty clearly "no". By that reasoning, I think this whole thing was a waste of a lot of peoples' time.
I guess I just don't think if he stays with Cleveland it was a foregone conclusion and he filed for free agency just to get his name out there. I think he filed for free agency to listen to what some teams had to say, meet with owners and coaches and decide if there was a situation out there that maybe blew him away. Maybe he filed for FA leaning towards staying, but wanted to explore his options.

I just don't think he had his mind made before the filing deadline, and if he chooses to stay in Cleveland I don't think it was all some masturbatory PR ploy. So to answer your question, yes I do think there were things that could have swayed him and just because no one did (hypothetically) doesn't mean he intentionally created the media hype.

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vinsanity wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
vinsanity wrote: Is it really his fault if the media is this interested? I don't think exploring your options is 'meglomania'.

Though, the coverage and stuff seems a little blown out for something that seems less likely to happen.
If Lebron chooses to stay in Cleveland, do you really think there is anything that Chicago, Miami, New York or New Jersey could have POSSIBLY said to sway him? I think the answer is pretty clearly "no". By that reasoning, I think this whole thing was a waste of a lot of peoples' time.
I guess I just don't think if he stays with Cleveland it was a foregone conclusion and he filed for free agency just to get his name out there. I think he filed for free agency to listen to what some teams had to say, meet with owners and coaches and decide if there was a situation out there that maybe blew him away. Maybe he filed for FA leaning towards staying, but wanted to explore his options.

I just don't think he had his mind made before the filing deadline, and if he chooses to stay in Cleveland I don't think it was all some masturbatory PR ploy. So to answer your question, yes I do think there were things that could have swayed him and just because no one did (hypothetically) doesn't mean he intentionally created the media hype.
Any idea what he might have been looking for from other teams? I mean, it's not like baseball where they were negotiating salary. He knew who the coaches were for each prospective team. He knew who the players are for each team.

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The most likely scenario is and has always been LeBron and Wade staying put and Bosh going to whichever of those player's franchise can put together a sign and trade.

From a Bulls perspective, Paxson did his job by putting his team in position to be players in the sweepstakes, but the Bird Rule always stacked the deck against us.

I've made peace with Boozer and Carmelo rumors. NBA hell as a 4 seed is still more fun than NBA hell as a 6-8 seed.

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