NBA Offseason Thread.

[Socnorb11]

Read a rumor this morning about Amare Stoudamire doing a sign & trade to Cleveland. If that happened, would Cleveland still be able to sign Lebron?

That might be enough to push the Cavs over the top.

[vinsanity]

Read a rumor this morning about Amare Stoudamire doing a sign & trade to Cleveland. If that happened, would Cleveland still be able to sign Lebron?

That might be enough to push the Cavs over the top.

That's my understanding. You can go over the cap to keep a player.

[Maclowery]

I am tuning out of ESPN chatter until I see things like "David Lee signs with X team. For reals. Here's a picture with him holding the jersey."

I was sad to see the Hawks offer Johnson 120 million. I was secretly hoping that Bosh would sign a max contract with the Bulls, and Johnson slightly less. The guy's good, but wow, 120 million good? Jeez.

[MrCrowesGarden]

These are the kinds of things that make me sad as a Hornets fan:

Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: The Blazers got close to a deal with the Hornets last week that would've sent Andre Miller, Joel Przybilla, Nicolas Batum, Jerryd Bayless and the 22nd pick to NO for Paul before Jeff Bower pulled out of the deal saying that their owner wasn't ready to trade Paul.

I really hate Jeff Bower. Not a star or a high pick in that group (though Batum is a good player). And, not even a mention of dumping one of those albatross contracts.

[phins]

I just don't think doing it with another great player diminishes his accomplishments.

I don't think that's what anyones saying.

I took it to mean his 'legend' will be greater if he does it in Cleveland vs. moving to Miami/NY/NJ to get his rings.

That, to me, is the definition of diminishing his accomplishments.

If LeBron jumps ship, he won't be synonymous with Cleveland, his 'legend' takes a hit (is the argument). I think there's something to it.

His legend takes a hit in Cleveland, perhaps, but if he wins a zillion rings with a new team, who cares. Do you really think an NBA player cares about anything other than rings and money? I sure don't.

[Rieges]

You've never met Natalie Portman (to my knowledge).

No, but who knows what's going to happen in the next two years. In fact, she should just leave whatever industry/artsy-type guy she's with now and move in with me because in two years I may be rich and if I start working out more now, I might be more attractive by then.

[vinsanity]

I just don't think doing it with another great player diminishes his accomplishments.

I don't think that's what anyones saying.

I took it to mean his 'legend' will be greater if he does it in Cleveland vs. moving to Miami/NY/NJ to get his rings.

That, to me, is the definition of diminishing his accomplishments.

It's semantics I suppose, I just mean no one's diminishing it because it takes another player. It's just there's a different aura/respect for a player who sticks with one team for his career. Not that his accomplishments are diminished, but that 'aura' that 'legend'.

His legend takes a hit in Cleveland, perhaps, but if he wins a zillion rings with a new team, who cares. Do you really think an NBA player cares about anything other than rings and money? I sure don't.

I don't think anyone cares, and I doubt it's any weight on his decision, just more of a consequence of his choice was the discussion.

[phins]

Fair enough.

[TabascoElvis]

I am tuning out of ESPN chatter until I see things like "David Lee signs with X team. For reals. Here's a picture with him holding the jersey."

I was sad to see the Hawks offer Johnson 120 million. I was secretly hoping that Bosh would sign a max contract with the Bulls, and Johnson slightly less. The guy's good, but wow, 120 million good? Jeez.

And he's, what, 30?

[Maclowery]

He's two weeks younger than me, hah. 29. I am just really surprised that that'd offer him such a huge contract. Does anyone really think that Joe Johnson is going to lead the Hawks to dominance down there?