NBA Offseason Thread.

[thrill]

Are you asking me to speculate, socnorb?

[Socnorb11]

Are you asking me to speculate, socnorb?

I'm asking you why you don't think he'll go to Miami.

I'm aware that nothing is set in stone........ just wondering if there are specific reasons why he wouldn't.

[thrill]

He and Wade play too similar a role in the offense. Every play funnels through them at some point whether it's an isolation, dribble drive, bringing the ball up or running off a screen and there just aren't enough basketballs to go around.

Also, I would be shocked if LeBron was ego-less enough to leave a legacy where he wasn't the guy on a championship team. I think they know that they couldn't be co-alpha dogs.

[Rieges]

I had a question about the salary cap stuff.

It's a soft cap, and you can pass it 'for good reason' right? i.e. Chicago could hit the cap this year, then when Rose is a free agent they can go over the 'cap' to keep their player, right?

So could Cleveland sign say Bosh to a max contract, then go over to keep James? Not will they. Not asking if the owner has that much money. Not will Bosh sign there. Is it possible under the rules?.

Yes, my understanding of the cap is that teams can go over to retain their own players. However, the Cavs do not have enough cap room even without James to sign a player to a max contract. They're at around $50M without James and the cap will reportedly be around $56M. They'd have to somehow find a team that has the cap room and ISN'T going after the big free agents AND that's stupid enough to take on at least $11M-$12M of the Cavs crap for basically draft picks. And even if they found a sucker to take on Jamison and his contract or Mo Williams and another smaller contract and then convinced Bosh to sign and James to stay, it would be James and Bosh with an even worse supporting cast than what James had before.

If James really means it when he says that he's all about winning championships and it isn't about money and/or being in Ohio, I can't see him staying in Cleveland.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

[Faceman]

He and Wade play too similar a role in the offense. Every play funnels through them at some point whether it's an isolation, dribble drive, bringing the ball up or running off a screen and there just aren't enough basketballs to go around.

Also, I would be shocked if LeBron was ego-less enough to leave a legacy where he wasn't the guy on a championship team. I think they know that they couldn't be co-alpha dogs.

I agree 100%. Makes no sense? Whose team is it in Miami?

You need a #1, a #2, and a #3. Or 2 #2s. You can't have 2 #1s, which is what Wade and LBJ would be.

I think LBJ is toying with that idea, but likes a pass first PG in Rose better. He takes Bosh either place, apparently.

[MrCrowesGarden]

I think Bosh would thrive with LBJ, much like Gasol has in Los Angeles. I think the best situation for him is one where he doesn't have to be the guy on a nightly basis, but can take on that role in a few games each year.

[thrill]

I think Bosh would thrive with LBJ, much like Gasol has in Los Angeles. I think the best situation for him is one where he doesn't have to be the guy on a nightly basis, but can take on that role in a few games each year.

He's also soft down low in the half court. Having someone like Noah to bang, offensive rebound and take the pressure off defensively would be huge for him.

[vinsanity]

If James really means it when he says that he's all about winning championships and it isn't about money and/or being in Ohio, I can't see him staying in Cleveland.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

To preface, I've said all along I'd like to see him stay in Cleveand.

But why? Just because a team offers him the best chance to win next year doesn't mean it offers him the best chance for multiple years. It does look like they are stuck with Mo and Jamison for a little while, but I don't think the team as it's situated is that far from being a serious title contender - who are they losing this year? Shaq? It would take some creative moves to get it done - but it wouldn't shock me.

I've heard one of the knocks on Reinsdorf is he's notoriously cheap when it comes to players? Someone there's a chance that once Bron and Bosh won a title in Chicago, he'd let Rose walk and be content with a title or two.

So staying Cleveland doesn't mean he doesn't want to win Championships or anything else. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

[JackofDiamonds]

I don't know what you guys are arguing about. LeBron is going to the Celtics. He knows I want to watch him play more often. He appreciates my emphatic cheering.

We're friends.

[Rieges]

If James really means it when he says that he's all about winning championships and it isn't about money and/or being in Ohio, I can't see him staying in Cleveland.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

To preface, I've said all along I'd like to see him stay in Cleveand.

But why? Just because a team offers him the best chance to win next year doesn't mean it offers him the best chance for multiple years. It does look like they are stuck with Mo and Jamison for a little while, but I don't think the team as it's situated is that far from being a serious title contender - who are they losing this year? Shaq? It would take some creative moves to get it done - but it wouldn't shock me.

I've heard one of the knocks on Reinsdorf is he's notoriously cheap when it comes to players? Someone there's a chance that once Bron and Bosh won a title in Chicago, he'd let Rose walk and be content with a title or two.

So staying Cleveland doesn't mean he doesn't want to win Championships or anything else. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

I know that you want him to stay but do you really believe that the Cavs give him the best chance to win championships now and in the near future? Seriously? As for whether he wants to win championships, of course he does regardless of where he plays. I'm not saying that he doesn't want to win, I'm just saying that if he stays it's not the MOST important thing to him, it's loyalty/feeling comfortable in Ohio and/or getting a bigger deal by staying home.