World Cup 2010

[lukethedrifter]

England getting crushed.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm sorry, but if this kind of [expletive] goes on in soccer without consequences then I will never be able to get behind the sport.

http://tv.gawker.com/5573553/ghana-play ... ts-bullsht

And soccer will suffer greatly for your lack of participation.

Don't get behind soccer and I bet people who are already soccer fans will be okay with it.

R.I.P. stlouie_lipp, couldn't get behind it.

I'll bet they'll be oaky too. And four years from now we'll hear about how great a sport it is again and how the US is an up-and-commer, and the same small group of fans will continue to be thin-skinned about their fandom and look down upon those who just don't "get it". It's a vicious cycle.

Seriously, I don't like soccer, and probably never will, even though I've tried. That's why I haven't posted anything in any of the World Cup threads. Then I see something that fans and commentators alike seem to think was BS, make a post about how such actions seemingly keep new fans away, and get ripped for it. That's all right, I'll just stay away and be happy about it. It won't come back around for four years anyway.

What's a vicious cycle is that those who just aren't into soccer will make comments about how soccer doesn't impress them and then extrapolate it to the popularity of the sport as a whole. Phrasing that original comment as "how such actions seemingly keep new fans away" is a generous interpretation. Soccer is not a perfect sport, and has its share of annoyances like every sport. If some people can't get past those annoyances to enjoy it, no one is trying to kidnap them to take them to soccer games. But at times like the World Cup when casual fan interest swells, those who don't like it seemingly feel compelled to wear their disinterest like a badge of honor. And when those annoyances of the sport come up the disinterested jump on them as if to say "SEE! THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE THIS". It's equivalent to people showing up to say "that's why I'll never be a baseball fan" after Joyce blew Galaragga's perfect game, or when the Yankees sign some small market star for the hundredth time, or when there's a 1-0 game featuring 45 pop ups and weak ground balls. If you want to talk about how ugly the Ghana time wasting was, fine, it was pretty disgusting, and really one of the reasons I personally can take so much pride in the American team that participates in very little gamesmanship. But please spare us the connotations about the sport as a whole, they've become very tiresome.

[Tambourine Man]

I'm sorry, but if this kind of [expletive] goes on in soccer without consequences then I will never be able to get behind the sport.

http://tv.gawker.com/5573553/ghana-play ... ts-bullsht

And soccer will suffer greatly for your lack of participation.

Don't get behind soccer and I bet people who are already soccer fans will be okay with it.

R.I.P. stlouie_lipp, couldn't get behind it.

I'll bet they'll be oaky too. And four years from now we'll hear about how great a sport it is again and how the US is an up-and-commer, and the same small group of fans will continue to be thin-skinned about their fandom and look down upon those who just don't "get it". It's a vicious cycle.

Seriously, I don't like soccer, and probably never will, even though I've tried. That's why I haven't posted anything in any of the World Cup threads. Then I see something that fans and commentators alike seem to think was BS, make a post about how such actions seemingly keep new fans away, and get ripped for it. That's all right, I'll just stay away and be happy about it. It won't come back around for four years anyway.

Right. No posts in the soccer threads, a crushing US loss and a link to tvgawker.com looks a hell of a lot like baiting or bashing to me. See TTiger's post.

lipp, I'm not so bothered by it but I've gotten a few PM's from people not happy about it at all. We've got another thread, which is hysterical BTW, for soccer hate/dislike/questions, etc...

Sorry for the terse response. I should've just pointed you to the other thread.

Okay, I'm getting an Ozil jersey, no doubt about it. Unhappy Rooney makes my day.

[slide_into_first]

Exciting, memorable run for the U.S.

Really? It didn't seem like we went very far at all.

Winning your group is like winning the NL Central division.

[stlouie_lipp]

I certainly wasn't trying to bait anyone and wasn't bashing soccer as a whole. I made one comment about a play that people are talking about. I didn't know people were so sensitive about it, sorry if I offended anyone. People "bash" the NBA and the NFL in other threads and it goes by without comment.

Again, sorry to those who were offended.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

Wow, Germany thumped England.

[Tambourine Man]

Tevez absolutely cruched that upper 90. 3-0 Argentina and plenty of time for more.

[thrill]

I'm sorry, but if this kind of [expletive] goes on in soccer without consequences then I will never be able to get behind the sport.

http://tv.gawker.com/5573553/ghana-play ... ts-bullsht

And soccer will suffer greatly for your lack of participation.

Don't get behind soccer and I bet people who are already soccer fans will be okay with it.

R.I.P. stlouie_lipp, couldn't get behind it.

I'll bet they'll be oaky too. And four years from now we'll hear about how great a sport it is again and how the US is an up-and-commer, and the same small group of fans will continue to be thin-skinned about their fandom and look down upon those who just don't "get it". It's a vicious cycle.

Seriously, I don't like soccer, and probably never will, even though I've tried. That's why I haven't posted anything in any of the World Cup threads. Then I see something that fans and commentators alike seem to think was BS, make a post about how such actions seemingly keep new fans away, and get ripped for it. That's all right, I'll just stay away and be happy about it. It won't come back around for four years anyway.

What's a vicious cycle is that those who just aren't into soccer will make comments about how soccer doesn't impress them and then extrapolate it to the popularity of the sport as a whole. Phrasing that original comment as "how such actions seemingly keep new fans away" is a generous interpretation. Soccer is not a perfect sport, and has its share of annoyances like every sport. If some people can't get past those annoyances to enjoy it, no one is trying to kidnap them to take them to soccer games. But at times like the World Cup when casual fan interest swells, those who don't like it seemingly feel compelled to wear their disinterest like a badge of honor. And when those annoyances of the sport come up the disinterested jump on them as if to say "SEE! THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE THIS". It's equivalent to people showing up to say "that's why I'll never be a baseball fan" after Joyce blew Galaragga's perfect game, or when the Yankees sign some small market star for the hundredth time, or when there's a 1-0 game featuring 45 pop ups and weak ground balls. If you want to talk about how ugly the Ghana time wasting was, fine, it was pretty disgusting, and really one of the reasons I personally can take so much pride in the American team that participates in very little gamesmanship. But please spare us the connotations about the sport as a whole, they've become very tiresome.

Sweet jesus this is a great post.

[TabascoElvis]

Gee, what a novel concept.

JOHANNESBURG - With pressure for video replay mounting after two blatant missed calls at the World Cup, FIFA president Sepp Blatter said soccer's governing body will reopen the issue after the tournament.

Blatter said Tuesday that FIFA deplores "when you see the evidence of refereeing mistakes." It would be "a nonsense" not to consider changes, he said.

The referee at England's second-round match with Germany on Sunday missed a clear English goal that would have tied the score 2-2. Germany went on to win 4-1. Hours later, a referee awarded a goal to Argentina on a play in which goal-scorer Carlos Tevez was obviously offside. Argentina went on to beat Mexico 3-1.

Blatter, who attended both matches, said he had apologized to English and Mexican soccer officials.

Although ESPN was reporting today that the discussion was likely to only be goal line reviews, so Mexico still would have gotten jobbed.

LINK

[Freed Roger]

having a goal line replay is a no-brainer. Offsides is very tough to discern -but not sure how instant replay could be utilized. The stoppages would be insane. They could review and take away offsides goals -like Brazil's over Mexico-without too much disruption. But using replay to award goals on offsides that were called in error may not work (Dempsey vs Algeria). Technically the offsides call comes before the shot and results in a stoppage. Am I wrong? So the defenders consider the play dead at that point.