World Cup 2010

[StL Dan]

The guys ESPN had no clue, probably because they're sitting in a studio in Bristol. So can somebody tell me WTF was the call? They didn't look offsides.

offsides

Do you know whether the ref called it or the linesman, er, assistant called it?

The Ref called it.
Not only was there NO offsides, there was a blatant, horrible foul! Dude dragged down Bradley!
Good refering- Goal
Bad Referring- PK USA
Horrendously fireable offense- Offsides

Not offsides. Foul on Edu.

Who the heck is Edu?

Hunh? Did you watch? He's the one that kicked in the disallowed goal.


Also, was apparently called on Bocanegra.






Wynalda accused the ref of taking a payoff.

point is, there is no flipping foul on a U.S. player. in fact, a slovenian player is seen bear hugging one of our guys.

[Tambourine Man]

So if we win, we are in?

I believe so. The US is back in control of their destiny.

The England game...holy crap. I've recorded it, but I bet London's burning now.

[lukethedrifter]

what do you mean 'point is'? Everyone recognizes it was a bad call. Beyond bad really. I was simply pointing out what the actual call was. And it looks as if Bocanegra did foul his man but not nearly as badly as the Bradley and the other US player got mugged.


From the AP http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03437.html

JOHANNESBURG -- Modern soccer has turned the penalty area into a wrestling ring, and that's what cost the United States victory in its World Cup match against Slovenia on Friday.

Maurice Edu committed no foul as he scored from just over six yards.

However, just about every other player in the penalty area was holding, grabbing, pulling or pushing as the U.S. free kick sailed in to the 18-yard zone.

Referee Koman Coulibaly of Mali saw one of several fouls. Unluckily for the U.S., he saw the only one committed by an American, defender Carlos Bocanegra.

Bocanegra had his arms around Slovenia substitute Jejc Pecnik and was preventing him from jumping for the ball.

Coulibaly was ideally placed to see the foul he called. He was 10 yards away from Edu as the striker hit the ball home, but the Bocanegra-Pecnik grappling took place just one yard away, in the referee's direct line of sight.

Next topic: WTF is England's problem?

[greenback44]

Also, was apparently called on Bocanegra.

I'm not sure the ref could've seen that. At about 17 second mark in StlDan's video at the top of the screen, just below the time counter, Dempsey pushes somebody in the back. It's blatant (though not flagrant, considering what else was going on), it's on the edge of the scrum so it can be seen clearly, and it's right in front of the ref, so I'm guessing that's what was called.

ETA: This was what was going on with Bocanegra:

Yeah, he was holding after that in the WaPo image, but sheesh.

[StL Dan]

i meant, what i was really trying to say was 'i don't care who edu is, one of our guys got absolutely subdued by a slovenian player'

we watched the game here at work in silence on the big screen....didn't catch edu's name

what do you mean 'point is'? Everyone recognizes it was a bad call. Beyond bad really. I was simply pointing out what the actual call was. And it looks as if Bocanegra did foul his man but not nearly as badly as the Bradley and the other US player got mugged.


From the AP http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03437.html

JOHANNESBURG -- Modern soccer has turned the penalty area into a wrestling ring, and that's what cost the United States victory in its World Cup match against Slovenia on Friday.

Maurice Edu committed no foul as he scored from just over six yards.

However, just about every other player in the penalty area was holding, grabbing, pulling or pushing as the U.S. free kick sailed in to the 18-yard zone.

Referee Koman Coulibaly of Mali saw one of several fouls. Unluckily for the U.S., he saw the only one committed by an American, defender Carlos Bocanegra.

Bocanegra had his arms around Slovenia substitute Jejc Pecnik and was preventing him from jumping for the ball.

Coulibaly was ideally placed to see the foul he called. He was 10 yards away from Edu as the striker hit the ball home, but the Bocanegra-Pecnik grappling took place just one yard away, in the referee's direct line of sight.

Next topic: WTF is England's problem?

[go birds]

maybe this will light a fire underneath the US' ass and they'll go out there and put up 10 goals.

[heyzeus]

Deadspin breaks down the amusing/amazing scenario: What if England-Slovenia ends in a tie?

http://deadspin.com/5567304/what-needs- ... to-advance

If the US draws, and Slovenia and England draw, it comes down to tiebreakers. Slovenia would win the group with 5, and England and America would be tied with 3. Here are the variables:

•The first tiebreaker is goal differential. The US and England would have tied all three matches, so we move on.

•The second tiebreaker is goals scored. After two games, the US has scored 3, while England has scored 1. That looks good for the US, as long as the England/Slovenia match isn't high-scoring. It's possible for England and Slovenia to finish 3-3, and the US/Algeria to finish 0-0. In that case England would move on. If England/Slovenia finished, say, 2-2 and the US plays a scoreless draw, we move on to the next tiebreaker.

•The third tiebreaker is points obtained in head-to-head matches. The US and England tied, so we move on.

•The fourth tiebreaker is goal differential in head-to-head matches. Again, a tie.

•The fifth tiebreaker is goals scored head-to-head. That's one apiece, so we move on.

If the US and England are still tied after all the tiebreakers, FIFA draws lots to determine who moves on. Yes, at the most important sporting event in the world, a coin will be flipped to decide the winner.

[greenback44]

•The second tiebreaker is goals scored. After two games, the US has scored 3, while England has scored 1. That looks good for the US, as long as the England/Slovenia match isn't high-scoring. It's possible for England and Slovenia to finish 3-3, and the US/Algeria to finish 0-0. In that case England would move on. If England/Slovenia finished, say, 2-2 and the US plays a scoreless draw, we move on to the next tiebreaker.

The 0-0 score for US/Algeria seems unlikely, as both sides should be playing for the win, especially Algeria. For that matter so does a big scoring England/Slovenia game, as Slovenia just needs a draw.

[StL Dan]

Deadspin breaks down the amusing/amazing scenario: What if England-Slovenia ends in a tie?

http://deadspin.com/5567304/what-needs- ... to-advance

If the US draws, and Slovenia and England draw, it comes down to tiebreakers. Slovenia would win the group with 5, and England and America would be tied with 3. Here are the variables:

•The first tiebreaker is goal differential. The US and England would have tied all three matches, so we move on.

•The second tiebreaker is goals scored. After two games, the US has scored 3, while England has scored 1. That looks good for the US, as long as the England/Slovenia match isn't high-scoring. It's possible for England and Slovenia to finish 3-3, and the US/Algeria to finish 0-0. In that case England would move on. If England/Slovenia finished, say, 2-2 and the US plays a scoreless draw, we move on to the next tiebreaker.

•The third tiebreaker is points obtained in head-to-head matches. The US and England tied, so we move on.

•The fourth tiebreaker is goal differential in head-to-head matches. Again, a tie.

•The fifth tiebreaker is goals scored head-to-head. That's one apiece, so we move on.

If the US and England are still tied after all the tiebreakers, FIFA draws lots to determine who moves on. Yes, at the most important sporting event in the world, a coin will be flipped to decide the winner.

What else should we expect from a sport that, at the highest level of play, embraces ties? This would be so much simpler if every game ended with a Winner and a Loser.

[Arthur Dent]

•The third tiebreaker is points obtained in head-to-head matches. The US and England tied, so we move on.

•The fourth tiebreaker is goal differential in head-to-head matches. Again, a tie.

•The fifth tiebreaker is goals scored head-to-head. That's one apiece, so we move on.

Since there is only one head-to-head match, aren't all three of these exactly the same? And I don't understand the difference between four and five at all.