World Cup 2010

[StL Dan]

Hockey has ties all the time.

Heh, hockey doesn't have ties anymore. Shootouts after a tied over time. Changed after the lockout.


Anyway, if something as easy to understand as a tie is something that keeps you from enjoying a sport, I have no time to convince you otherwise. If you're fundamentally opposed to a tie without understanding the concept of a group play or aggregate goal, multi-legged match fixture, and falling down in apparent agony to fake an injury only to hop back up as soon as the ref shows a card, then it's not the sport for you

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[TabascoElvis]

It's going to be the nil/nil games that hurt viewership the worst. See Uruguay v. France. Casual fans really aren't going to like a game that has zilch scoring. IMO.

[StL Dan]

i grew up in st. louis, played outdoor and indoor soccer, went to steamers games, know all about the sport. i get it. team play. extraordinary athletes. back and forth attacks. probing for weaknesses to exploit. i get it.

ties suck

declare a winner

[jim]

It's going to be the nil/nil games that hurt viewership the worst. See Uruguay v. France. Casual fans really aren't going to like a game that has zilch scoring. IMO.

I think casual fans will get it. Just because there is no scoring doesn't mean there isn't excitement. I didn't see the game, but I can imagine from reading the play by play from the fifa website. Examples:

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HENRY(FRA) and RIBERY(FRA) are standing over the ball...
LUGANO(Uruguay) is cautioned.
EGUREN(in) comes off the bench to replace PEREZ(out)(URUGUAY)
HENRY(FRA) is ruled offsides.
MALOUDA(FRA) sees an effort go off target.
DIABI(FRA) commits a foul.
ANELKA(FRA) is adjudged to be in an offside position.

Riveting match. You just don't see any American official in any sport adjudging anything.

[jim]

So, back to a serious question, what would happen if the entire pool played each other and nobody won a game (0-0-3)? How are ties broken in general? What if it's all 0-0 ties ... that seems unlikely but I can't believe it's impossible.

[StL Dan]

reduce the area in which a goaltender can use his hands

or

increase the hght/wdth of goals

[Leroy]

They just give the trophy to the home team, jim.

[StL Dan]

Reminds me of the classic sports cheer:

GO....FIGHT....TIE !!!

[thrill]

So, back to a serious question, what would happen if the entire pool played each other and nobody won a game (0-0-3)? How are ties broken in general? What if it's all 0-0 ties ... that seems unlikely but I can't believe it's impossible.

Tie breaker is goal differential. After that, total goals scored. So since they all tied, the goal differential would be the same.

So unless all the ties were the same score, you'd be able to have two top teams advance.

For example:

1v2 = 1-1
3v4 = 2-2
1v4 = 0-0
2v3 = 2-2
1v3 = 1-1
2v4 = 3-3

Team 2 - 6g
Team 3 - 6g
Team 3 - 5g
Team 1 - 2g

Teams 2 and 3 would advance.

[thrill]

Btw, if you're just going to be take shots at soccer, please do so in the World Cup for dummies thread.

DAN