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lukethedrifter wrote:Not sure if this guy knows what he's talking about but he's got an interesting theory about what is going on and why.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... sion060610
What he writes seems fairly plausible.

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lukethedrifter wrote:Not sure if this guy knows what he's talking about but he's got an interesting theory about what is going on and why.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... sion060610
Interesting read, that's for sure.

But it sounds to me like his theory is essentially, 'Big 10/Pac10/SEC offered the Big 12/Big East the plus one so everyone could get more money. They opposed it on some sort of moral grounds. So to make even more money than the plus one offered, the Big 10 is going to expand.'

So if it's all driven by money, and the second option offered more money - why would they even bother with a Plus One? It all seems a little too conspiracy theory to me, but who knows.

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vinsanity wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:Not sure if this guy knows what he's talking about but he's got an interesting theory about what is going on and why.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... sion060610
Interesting read, that's for sure.

But it sounds to me like his theory is essentially, 'Big 10/Pac10/SEC offered the Big 12/Big East the plus one so everyone could get more money. They opposed it on some sort of moral grounds. So to make even more money than the plus one offered, the Big 10 is going to expand.'

So if it's all driven by money, and the second option offered more money - why would they even bother with a Plus One? It all seems a little too conspiracy theory to me, but who knows.
Did I read a completely different article? He's saying that it was the SEC and the ACC that were pushing the "plus-one" and implies that the Big 10/Pac 10 convinced the Big 12 to side with them in opposing it to shut it down. He's portraying Delaney as having spearheaded the opposition to it to ensure that the Big 10 continues to be the richest (and therefore, most powerful) conference due to the Big 10 network. In other words, he's claiming that he play-off would have leveled the playing field in terms of conference revenue and he didn't want that.

The piece that doesn't quite add up to me is where he thinks that had the Big 12 gotten on board with the SEC and ACC, they would have had the leverage to force the Big 10 and Pac 10 into the play-off format. The $770M in revenue that he claims would be generated by a play-off wouldn't be nearly that much without the Big 10 and Pac 10's being included. What network is going to be interested in broadcasting a play-off series that doesn't include Ohio State or USC, and most importantly, isn't going to matter in the LA market? It really had to be all or none and therefore the "nays" are the ones that had the leverage.

There's no question of course that Bebee's incompetence is really to blame for the destruction of the Big 12.

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Rieges wrote:Did I read a completely different article? He's saying that it was the SEC and the ACC that were pushing the "plus-one" and implies that the Big 10/Pac 10 convinced the Big 12 to side with them in opposing it to shut it down. He's portraying Delaney as having spearheaded the opposition to it to ensure that the Big 10 continues to be the richest (and therefore, most powerful) conference due to the Big 10 network. In other words, he's claiming that he play-off would have leveled the playing field in terms of conference revenue and he didn't want that.
Nope it was early and my brain wasn't working. I missed some keywords in it like 'the smaller leagues and Notre Dame would have gone along with it[the plus one], but the leagues blindly followed along'.

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It's hard for me to fathom that the Big XII, arguably the best sports conference top to bottom across all sports, will simply disband. Especially to join conferences that will drastically increase travel and eliminate long standing rivalries.

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"Oh boy, is this grrrreat!"

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This had me in tears at my desk at work:

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2010/6/7/ ... -12-twelve

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Hahaha...
Missouri: You know what? I don't care. I'm going to go the Big Ten, wipe my ass with piles of TV money, and spend my winters buried in lake effects snow.

Texas: Wiping your ass with money is awesome.

Missouri: So, yeah, I'm out. [expletive] you, [expletive] you, (points at Kansas) and double [expletive] you.
Texas: What an embarrassment. Tech?

Texas Tech: In. I go where you go my liege.

Baylor: God spoke with me last night, and he said that I should form a conference with other like religious institutions supported by the Almighty himself. However, he said I had to fire Scott Drew because he's an Eddie Haskell-style prick of the highest order, and I said, "No." I like being good at basketball now. Also, those Oral Roberts kids creep me out. They're like a cult.

Iowa State: I will do anything to stay in this conference. Anything. I am not above handing out sexual favors, and I don't care who asks for it.

Texas: So if I ask you to have sex with a dirty hobo, you'll do it?

Iowa State: Absolutely. You can even tape it if you'd like. That would be a hundred times better than joining the MAC.
Dan Beebe: Hey, guys, what's up?

Texas: Dan, go back to your computer, keep playing Minesweeper, and we'll call you when we're done.

Beebe: Sure thing, boss.

Texas Tech: That was kind of harsh, don't you think?

Texas: He should be thankful he still has a job. We used a cardboard cutout of him a few weeks ago at a function with a tape player attached to its back looping random, non-committal statements, and no one knew it wasn't him until Baylor tried to hand him a plate of barbecued chicken and it dropped to the floor.

Texas A&M: I ate that chicken.

Oklahoma: Of course you did.

Texas A&M: It tasked like chicken.

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