World Cup 2010

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm going to be angry if we lose a point to England because that spindly goon Crouch gets a goal.

[Fat Strat]

We can tie England. That's what I expect.

[thrill]

We can tie England. That's what I expect.

You expect a tie? That's optimistic. Especially with their attackers and our defenders. We've got 3 guys who would start on England. They've got 8 guys who would walk into our starting lineup.

Even that is misleading. Just saying Rooney would start over Altidore or Lampard and Gerrard would start over Bradley and Edu doesn't encapsulate the huge gulf in class.

I certainly think a tie is possible, or even a win. I'm not expecting it though.

[Maclowery]

All I ask is that we are not embarrassed. I really hope for a kickass upset, but I'd be relatively satisfied if we lost by a goal. I'm going with 4-2 Brits.

(I hate America)

[JackofDiamonds]

11-0 USA, England quits soccer.

[TabascoElvis]

Let's party like it's 1950

Newspaper headlines in most World Cup nations trumpeted the shocking upset, except in the United States and England.

There was only one American journalist even at the World Cup: Dent McSkimming of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, who could not get the newspaper to pay for the trip, and had taken time off of work to cover the event.[10] His report of the match was the only one to appear in any major American newspaper.[11]

In England, newspapers at the time were generally small, and only had a single page devoted to sports. Because the English cricket team happened to suffer their first-ever defeat to the West Indies the very same day, that was the major story in most publications.[9] However, in publications that did report the World Cup match, so unexpected was the result that it was presumed that the 1-0 scoreline was a typing error and so it was reported that England had won on a scoreline of 10-0 or 10–1.[12]

Afterwards, a number of books and newspapers in England suggested that the U.S. team had arrived "through Ellis Island", meaning that the team was made up of imported players, but eight of the starting eleven were American-born. The other three, Gaetjens, McIlvenny, and Maca, were not U.S. citizens but had declared their intentions to gain citizenship and according to the rules of the United States Soccer Football Association at the time were allowed to play. The U.S. was cleared of any wrongdoing by FIFA in a hearing on 2 December 1950.[9]

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[Maclowery]

Gotta be a fake story. The name "Dent McSkimming" is too awesome to be real.

[thrill]

Let's party like it's 1950

Gaetjens

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[Fat Strat]

We can tie England. That's what I expect.

You expect a tie? That's optimistic. Especially with their attackers and our defenders. We've got 3 guys who would start on England. They've got 8 guys who would walk into our starting lineup.

Even that is misleading. Just saying Rooney would start over Altidore or Lampard and Gerrard would start over Bradley and Edu doesn't encapsulate the huge gulf in class.

I certainly think a tie is possible, or even a win. I'm not expecting it though.

Why not? You watched how they played in the Confederate's Cup. They can stick with a lot of teams.

And in soccer that's all they have to do -- hang on for 90 mins. I think that the US has a knack for scoring on set plays -- corners, rebounds, etc. -- and Howard can be dominant. 1-1. Both teams start a little tentative for the first 20 mins., followed by an English goal and then 50 minutes of the US playing like mad and finally getting a squeaker in after a rebound on a set play. Tim Howard makes a few amazing plays; the Brits miss a shot or two that they should make, and we walk away with a tie.

[thrill]

We can tie England. That's what I expect.

You expect a tie? That's optimistic. Especially with their attackers and our defenders. We've got 3 guys who would start on England. They've got 8 guys who would walk into our starting lineup.

Even that is misleading. Just saying Rooney would start over Altidore or Lampard and Gerrard would start over Bradley and Edu doesn't encapsulate the huge gulf in class.

I certainly think a tie is possible, or even a win. I'm not expecting it though.

Why not? You watched how they played in the Confederate's Cup. They can stick with a lot of teams.

And in soccer that's all they have to do -- hang on for 90 mins. I think that the US has a knack for scoring on set plays -- corners, rebounds, etc. -- and Howard can be dominant. 1-1. Both teams start a little tentative for the first 20 mins., followed by an English goal and then 50 minutes of the US playing like mad and finally getting a squeaker in after a rebound on a set play. Tim Howard makes a few amazing plays; the Brits miss a shot or two that they should make, and we walk away with a tie.

That's a whole lot of if's for something that you expect to happen.

The Confederation's Cup is a bad example. No Charlie Davies this time. His speed, aggressiveness and intelligence did more for Landon Donovan's international reputation than anything else by opening up the space for him to operate. Oguchi Onyewu who was a dominant force in that tournament is playing at about 70% of his ability due to rust, tentativeness and lingering injury. Also, everyone seems to forget that just because we played 225 minutes of inspired soccer, we were flat out embarassing for the the other 225. The Italy game was pathetic. The first Brazil game was one of the most one-sided displays I've ever seen and the second half of the final was the same. Yes we beat Egypt and Spain convincingly, but to even qualify for the knockout stages we needed an unprecedented confluence of results to happen. We needed Italy to lose 3-0 to Brazil and us to win 3-0 against Egypt. That's not exactly advancing with confidence. You might not remember or be aware, but after the first two games, there was legitimate media and fan uproar about whether or not Bradley should be fired a year out from the World Cup.

I really think you're underselling England's talent and experience and I think you're overvaluing what actually happened last summer in South Africa.