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I was excited about tonight but when I realized that most of the starters were sitting out, I became less concerned about the result, although of course it would've been nice if those guys had played better.

Looking forward to the next match.

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paskal wrote:I was excited about tonight but when I realized that most of the starters were sitting out, I became less concerned about the result, although of course it would've been nice if those guys had played better.

Looking forward to the next match.
The result was brutal but it did serve the purpose of making Bob's decisions a lot easier. Cut out a lot of potential gray areas.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the full squad does against a more talented than the Czechs Turkey side this Saturday. I'm predicting 3-1 US.

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Rosters for the World Cup

U.S. ROSTER BY POSITION (All-Time World Cup Roster Appearances)
GOALKEEPERS (3): Brad Guzan (2010), Marcus Hahnemann (2006, 2010), Tim Howard (2006, 2010)
DEFENDERS (7): Carlos Bocanegra (2006, 2010), Jonathan Bornstein (2010), Steve Cherundolo (2002, 2006, 2010), Jay DeMerit (2010), Clarence Goodson (2010), Oguchi Onyewu (2006, 2010), Jonathan Spector (2010)
MIDFIELDERS (9): DaMarcus Beasley (2002, 2006, 2010), Michael Bradley (2010), Ricardo Clark (2010), Clint Dempsey (2006, 2010), Landon Donovan (2002, 2006, 2010), Maurice Edu (2010), Benny Feilhaber (2010), Stuart Holden (2010), José Torres (2010)
FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore (2010), Edson Buddle (2010), Robbie Findley (2010), Herculez Gomez (2010)

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Findley over Ching is a shocker, but none of what's happened since camp started, including this surprise roster move and last night's crap fest change anything about our expectations. It's still get out of the group and that's it. That definitely speaks to how shallow our roster is. We'll use the same 13-14 guys every game regardless of what happened in this camp.

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Personally, I like Ching. Always seemed like he was making something happen when I saw him.

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thrill wrote:Findley over Ching is a shocker, but none of what's happened since camp started, including this surprise roster move and last night's crap fest change anything about our expectations. It's still get out of the group and that's it. That definitely speaks to how shallow our roster is. We'll use the same 13-14 guys every game regardless of what happened in this camp.
Yeah, they're an average World Cup team. Donovan, Dempsey, and Howard are World Class Players and can lead the way. The problem is the good teams, say the top 12 in the world, have 10-15 players equal to or better than those 3 (maybe Bradley, Bocanegra, and Onyewu make it 6). So, the US should beat the lower rung teams, and get to the knockout round. Their only chance is to be able to play a team that pulled off a couple upsets to get to the 2nd round.

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robbotis wrote: Their only chance is to be able to play a team that pulled off a couple upsets to get to the 2nd round.
I don't necessarily agree with that. They can beat any team in the world, it's just not very likely. If they finish 2nd, they're likely to get Germany in the round of 16. If we played Germany on a neutral field 10 times, we'd win 2, draw 3 and lose 5. Since a draw isn't likely and the shoot out is too close to call (our keeper is way better than their's, they're reputation for being ice penalties is a point in their favor) we'll negate that. Those odds aren't good, but they're not impossible either.

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thrill wrote:
robbotis wrote: Their only chance is to be able to play a team that pulled off a couple upsets to get to the 2nd round.
I don't necessarily agree with that. They can beat any team in the world, it's just not very likely. If they finish 2nd, they're likely to get Germany in the round of 16. If we played Germany on a neutral field 10 times, we'd win 2, draw 3 and lose 5. Since a draw isn't likely and the shoot out is too close to call (our keeper is way better than their's, they're reputation for being ice penalties is a point in their favor) we'll negate that. Those odds aren't good, but they're not impossible either.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. They have the ability to play with anybody, but with playing opposite a deeeep group and the current roster/injury situation, a round of 16 loss is the most likely outcome.

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
thrill wrote:
robbotis wrote: Their only chance is to be able to play a team that pulled off a couple upsets to get to the 2nd round.
I don't necessarily agree with that. They can beat any team in the world, it's just not very likely. If they finish 2nd, they're likely to get Germany in the round of 16. If we played Germany on a neutral field 10 times, we'd win 2, draw 3 and lose 5. Since a draw isn't likely and the shoot out is too close to call (our keeper is way better than their's, they're reputation for being ice penalties is a point in their favor) we'll negate that. Those odds aren't good, but they're not impossible either.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. They have the ability to play with anybody, but with playing opposite a deeeep group and the current roster/injury situation, a round of 16 loss is the most likely outcome.
Wasn't the only time in the last 50 years they've advanced past the 1st stage of knockouts, when they got to play Mexico?

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robbotis wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
thrill wrote:
robbotis wrote: Their only chance is to be able to play a team that pulled off a couple upsets to get to the 2nd round.
I don't necessarily agree with that. They can beat any team in the world, it's just not very likely. If they finish 2nd, they're likely to get Germany in the round of 16. If we played Germany on a neutral field 10 times, we'd win 2, draw 3 and lose 5. Since a draw isn't likely and the shoot out is too close to call (our keeper is way better than their's, they're reputation for being ice penalties is a point in their favor) we'll negate that. Those odds aren't good, but they're not impossible either.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. They have the ability to play with anybody, but with playing opposite a deeeep group and the current roster/injury situation, a round of 16 loss is the most likely outcome.
Wasn't the only time in the last 50 years they've advanced past the 1st stage of knockouts, when they got to play Mexico?
No idea, but they also haven't been a team of much quality until the last 10 years when that took place(as well as their group of death underachievement in '06).

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