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I don't know that they would although I've read rumors that the T-Wolves may make him available to open up more playing time for Love. If Minnesota ends up in a spot in the lottery where they're forced to take another big man because he's BPA, it makes the scenario a little more plausible.

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Rieges wrote:Anyone else have theirs set?
LeBron. Phil Jackson as Team President. A coach. A shooting guard who can spread the floor with 3's.

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thrill wrote:
Rieges wrote:Anyone else have theirs set?
LeBron. Phil Jackson as Team President. A coach. A shooting guard who can spread the floor with 3's.
Well played.

Any specific SG in mind?

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Rieges wrote:
thrill wrote:
Rieges wrote:Anyone else have theirs set?
LeBron. Phil Jackson as Team President. A coach. A shooting guard who can spread the floor with 3's.
Well played.

Any specific SG in mind?
Sure. Ray Allen.

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Not enough balls to go between Rose and James. NJ with Bropez, a young elite center is a better fit. Chicago fans are convinced they're about to establish a dynasty, why?

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ParanoidMoonPuck wrote:Not enough balls to go between Rose and James. NJ with Bropez, a young elite center is a better fit. Chicago fans are convinced they're about to establish a dynasty, why?
I don't get it either. I have no idea whom the Bulls will hire as a head coach, but it's likely to be someone with no head coaching experience if history is any indication. And I think that would be a pretty big problem for Lebron.

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ParanoidMoonPuck wrote:Not enough balls to go between Rose and James.
This is a monumentally awful basketball thought. I'd go more in depth about Derrick's willingness to defer to other scorers his entire career (I'm going all the way back to high school on this one. Specifically his senior year and the second state championship game he won. I watched him take two shots, completely control the game and his team won by some absurd number like 36), LeBron being the best passing forward maybe ever, and at the very least since Bird, who is incredibly good at setting up teammates with scoring chances (hence his historic assist numbers for a forward) and how each desperately need someone on their team who know when to take over a game and when to get others involved and how that skill is one that Derrick Rose in particular has in spades, but I don't think I want to because anyone who can reveal that above thought to the world is NBA hopeless and I'd be wasting my time.

Hungary Jack wrote:I have no idea whom the Bulls will hire as a head coach, but it's likely to be someone with no head coaching experience if history is any indication. And I think that would be a pretty big problem for Lebron.
You haven't been paying very close attention, have you? The Bulls (Paxson & Forman) organization has publicly laid out three definite criteria about their next head coach hire:
1) It will be someone with NBA head coaching experience.
2) It will be someone who puts an emphasis on uptempo offense and team defense.
3) It will be someone who compliments their free agent search.

Translation: Whichever NBA head coach LeBron wants.
ParanoidMoonPuck wrote: Chicago fans are convinced they're about to establish a dynasty, why?
Hungary Jack wrote:I don't get it either.
First of all, let's leave dynasty out of this. That word can be used after they've won one. The excitement, I'm guessing, is probably from articles like these which are coming out daily, and not from message boards or amateur bloggers. From established, well sourced, professional journalists who cover the league for their living:

From Terrence Moore, national NBA columnist for Fanhouse - http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/05/17/expe ... o-chicago/
Expect LeBron, Rivers to Flow to Chicago
He's going to the Chicago Bulls.

Trust me.

Oh, and here's another thing: When LeBron James switches his dribbling home around the Great Lakes from Erie to Michigan, he'll bring his own coach with him.

It'll be Doc Rivers.

Now you can move on with the rest of your lives.

What I just said isn't a done deal, but only because it is slightly an eternity between now and July 1, when teams officially can begin negotiating with free agents. I mean, James could search deep into his soul, discover that he really doesn't wish to leave the area of his birth and youth in northeastern Ohio and reverse some of those curses on Cleveland sports teams by declaring he'll stay with the Cavaliers.

As for Rivers, his Boston Celtics could win a second world championship in three years this June, and then he could decide to remain with the Big Three for a shot at a third in four years. He also has a year left on his contract. So, when the Bulls ask the Celtics for permission to buy out Rivers' final season, the Celtics could do the illogical thing by telling their coach who wants to go elsewhere that he isn't allowed to leave.

Then you have the Bulls, who could shrug over remaining in a free-fall since Michael Jordan left in the late 1990s and refuse to allow James to dictate the terms of his signing.

You also could have little green men invading Earth.

I'll stick with the likelihood of the new-look Bulls finishing the summer with James, Rivers -- and who knows? Maybe Chris Bosh -- to complement the already splendid Derrick Rose. This goes beyond the fact that The Daily Herald of Arlington Heights (Ill)., cited NBA sources on Sunday as saying that James already has contacted Rose to express interest of joining the third-year player as a teammate.

Rivers, LeBron and Bosh? I guess I'm ok with that.

Or this one from ESPN's Chad Ford:
http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_ ... s-think-so
In the space of five minutes I heard from three NBA GMs via text, e-mail and phone. All three said that based on the information they have, they believe LeBron will leave the Cavs.

More surprisingly, all of them said they believe the destination will be the Chicago Bulls. Two said they believe that John Calipari will be the Bulls' new head coach.

One GM went a bit further in a phone call a few minutes later. "I think the Bulls are really going to go for it. Look for them to offer the Cavs Luol Deng in a sign-and-trade for LeBron. That will allow them to retain most of their cap space. Then they'll go after Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh as well."
Or this one, from KC Johnson: http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/20 ... steam.html

If you need more, it's out there for you.

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Wishful thinking and speculation. It's possible but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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I'm hopeful Thrill that you are right, but the Bulls' FO actions speak much louder than their words over the past several hires. Since MJ retired and Jackson left, the Bulls have hired:

Tim Floyd
Bill Cartwright
Scott Skiles
Vincent Del Negro.

I guess technically Skiles had previous head coaching experience, but the pattern is quite clear.

If Reinsdorft has had enough of mediocrity he will change his approach. I think he demonstrated that with the White Sox, where payroll briefly exceeded $120 M (IIRC).

But for now, the Bulls are the same old Bulls. I don't really care what the state publicly, because I have seen this before with this club. They also had plans to sign TMac, trade for Gasol, etc. These things are easier said than done.

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Hungary Jack wrote: I guess technically Skiles had previous head coaching experience, but the pattern is quite clear.
I don't understand the technically qualifier with Skiles. He had successful head coaching experience with the Suns where he did exactly what he did with the Bulls and is doing with the Bucks. That being helping teams over achieve and doing more with less talent through defense and masterful in bounds plays. He's one of the best 5 coaches in the league. Citing him as an example to the Bulls history of hiring bad coaches is counter intuitive.

I feel dirty because it sounds like I'm defending the Bulls front office which I absolutely don't want to do.

I'm worried about their talent for screwing the pooch rearing it's ugly head this offseason too. For now, I'm just taking these reports at their word because I believe there are larger forces moving on this (World Wide Wes) who will achieve LeBron's goals regardless of whichever inept front office they choose to deal with (Bulls, Knicks, Nets or Cavs).
ParanoidMoonPuck wrote:Wishful thinking and speculation.
Uhh...ok. I'll forward that on to all these reputable journalists and their sources.

Speaking of wishful thinking...
ParanoidMoonPuck wrote:2013, what couldve been.
Carpenter
Wainwright
Garcia
Porcello
Miller
Get your head out of the clouds, Peter Pan.
ParanoidMoonPuck wrote:I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Thanks for the advice.

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