Big Ten Expansion

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think Notre Dame has to be very careful. It wouldn't be improbable at all for Big 10 expansion to set off a chain reaction that pretty much guts the Big 12. Now you've got 14-16 team conferences and a decent likelihood at 9-10 conference games. What happens when half of Notre Dame's schedule loses interest in playing a non-conference game that isn't a home blowout cash grab? Especially programs that need those wins for bowl eligibility like the Purdues, Michigan States, and Washingtons of the world.

[Radio_Bugtussle]

I think Notre Dame has to be very careful. It wouldn't be improbable at all for Big 10 expansion to set off a chain reaction that pretty much guts the Big 12. Now you've got 14-16 team conferences and a decent likelihood at 9-10 conference games. What happens when half of Notre Dame's schedule loses interest in playing a non-conference game that isn't a home blowout cash grab? Especially programs that need those wins for bowl eligibility like the Purdues, Michigan States, and Washingtons of the world.

The series of football related decisions in South Bend since Ara P. retired give me very little faith that they'll get it right.

Hiring Lou Holtz was a smart play--other than that, the decisions have been pretty bad.

[PurdueSTL]

..... What happens when half of Notre Dame's schedule loses interest in playing a non-conference game that isn't a home blowout cash grab? Especially programs that need those wins for bowl eligibility like the Purdues, Michigan States, and Washingtons of the world.

I won't speak for any Spartans or Huskies out there, but the doma game in Ross-Ade Stadium every other year is a big moneymaker for Purdue football, and regardless of ND's level of sucktitude, the game has always been an important measuring stick for Purdue.

Whatever the future holds, I'd be shocked if Purdue did not do everything in its power from its end to maintain the Shillleleigh Game....The domaz probably don't feel the same way about Purdue as a rival, but it's always been a signature game and a recruiting tool for us.

[vinsanity]

..... What happens when half of Notre Dame's schedule loses interest in playing a non-conference game that isn't a home blowout cash grab? Especially programs that need those wins for bowl eligibility like the Purdues, Michigan States, and Washingtons of the world.

I won't speak for any Spartans or Huskies out there, but the doma game in Ross-Ade Stadium every other year is a big moneymaker for Purdue football, and regardless of ND's level of sucktitude, the game has always been an important measuring stick for Purdue.

Whatever the future holds, I'd be shocked if Purdue did not do everything in its power from its end to maintain the Shillleleigh Game....The domaz probably don't feel the same way about Purdue as a rival, but it's always been a signature game and a recruiting tool for us.

I heard Notre Dame wants to scale back the Purdue game to every other year.

Which is kind of a shame because according to wiki it's their second oldest rival (behind Navy) being played for 80 years.

[ndistops]

..... What happens when half of Notre Dame's schedule loses interest in playing a non-conference game that isn't a home blowout cash grab? Especially programs that need those wins for bowl eligibility like the Purdues, Michigan States, and Washingtons of the world.

I won't speak for any Spartans or Huskies out there, but the doma game in Ross-Ade Stadium every other year is a big moneymaker for Purdue football, and regardless of ND's level of sucktitude, the game has always been an important measuring stick for Purdue.

Whatever the future holds, I'd be shocked if Purdue did not do everything in its power from its end to maintain the Shillleleigh Game....The domaz probably don't feel the same way about Purdue as a rival, but it's always been a signature game and a recruiting tool for us.

I heard Notre Dame wants to scale back the Purdue game to every other year.

Which is kind of a shame because according to wiki it's their second oldest rival (behind Navy) being played for 80 years.

They just re-upped for a yearly game until 2021, so that's an interesting move for a school that wants to scale back a rivalry.

If ND joins the Big Ten they will basically be directly competing with Michigan and Ohio State and company for recruits. Good luck convincing them to exert themselves academically.

And it bears repeating that that league has been boning ND for 80 years - blacklisting them (and inadvertently leading to what they became) in the '20s and beyond and still now consistently in other areas (this last year's Michigan game was among the most shameful homer jobs in recent college football history).

[Sutter'sBeard]

..... What happens when half of Notre Dame's schedule loses interest in playing a non-conference game that isn't a home blowout cash grab? Especially programs that need those wins for bowl eligibility like the Purdues, Michigan States, and Washingtons of the world.

I won't speak for any Spartans or Huskies out there, but the doma game in Ross-Ade Stadium every other year is a big moneymaker for Purdue football, and regardless of ND's level of sucktitude, the game has always been an important measuring stick for Purdue.

Whatever the future holds, I'd be shocked if Purdue did not do everything in its power from its end to maintain the Shillleleigh Game....The domaz probably don't feel the same way about Purdue as a rival, but it's always been a signature game and a recruiting tool for us.

I heard Notre Dame wants to scale back the Purdue game to every other year.

Which is kind of a shame because according to wiki it's their second oldest rival (behind Navy) being played for 80 years.

They just re-upped for a yearly game until 2021, so that's an interesting move for a school that wants to scale back a rivalry.

If ND joins the Big Ten they will basically be directly competing with Michigan and Ohio State and company for recruits. Good luck convincing them to exert themselves academically.

And it bears repeating that that league has been boning ND for 80 years - blacklisting them (and inadvertently leading to what they became) in the '20s and beyond and still now consistently in other areas (this last year's Michigan game was among the most shameful homer jobs in recent college football history).

Already doing this and not doing all that bad at it. The only thing bad that can happen by ND joining the big ten is that they finish in the middle of the pack. This, I guess, is fairly possible seeing as how the past decade has went for the irish.

[Popeye_Card]

Um, I hate to tell you this, but the Big Ten teams such as Michigan and Ohio State already take most of the good recruits from the midwest. Also, pretty much every team in the Big Ten has very high academic credentials. Some of them, including Michigan, have as-high or higher standards than Notre Dame.

Notre Dame is catholic. That is pretty much the only thing that is different between them and the rest of the Big Ten.

[Popeye_Card]

Sorry, every *school* in the Big Ten has high academic standards. Every D-1 football team, including Notre Dame, takes what students they can to fill the football team.

[vinsanity]

I heard Notre Dame wants to scale back the Purdue game to every other year.

Which is kind of a shame because according to wiki it's their second oldest rival (behind Navy) being played for 80 years.

They just re-upped for a yearly game until 2021, so that's an interesting move for a school that wants to scale back a rivalry.

If ND joins the Big Ten they will basically be directly competing with Michigan and Ohio State and company for recruits. Good luck convincing them to exert themselves academically.

And it bears repeating that that league has been boning ND for 80 years - blacklisting them (and inadvertently leading to what they became) in the '20s and beyond and still now consistently in other areas (this last year's Michigan game was among the most shameful homer jobs in recent college football history).

Aye hadn't heard about them re-upping it. It was a year or so ago I heard about scaling it back, so no need to get snippy. I was raised on ND football so we aren't enemies here.

They aren't directly competing with Michigan and Ohio State for recruits right now? They've got 12 guys on the team from last year form MI/OH. If joining the Big 10 means more money, a little bit more 'legitimacy' and more consistency across their athletics I think they should do it instead of being an independent. I think it would be better for the program now and in the future to do so.

I'm not sure I buy the academic exertion either. Look at what Harbaugh has done with Stanford who is recruiting against USC, Oregon, Cal, UCLA and the rest of the country trying to get players out of California.

[Radio_Bugtussle]

If ND joins the Big Ten they will basically be directly competing with Michigan and Ohio State and company for recruits. Good luck convincing them to exert themselves academically.

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If ND were anywhere near as good at this game as you think they are, they would be successfully competing for those football players already.

And IF Missouri comes into the B-10, watch Pinkel establish a pipeline into Ohio, etc. along the lines of what he has in Texas. Pinkel is from that part of the world, he's not going to have trouble pulling quality FB players out of there in the event of a conference change.