Big Ten Expansion

[MrMojoRisin]

I read lots of articles about why it would be a big benefit for Missouri to join the Big Ten. But not much about why it would benefit the Big Ten. I see an attempt to pull a Big East school much more likely. It's all about the money. Syracuse or Pitt will be likely targets with Syracuse the preferred. If that happens the Big East is in Big Trouble.

Media markets. Pitt doesn't add anything, and Syracuse isn't a very big one. Mizzou gets you the St. Louis market and some of the KC market as well. It's all about the TV eyeballs.

I think you're wrong on this one, seeing things through your black and gold tinted glasses. Mizzou just isn't that desirable to the Big 10 according to most substantive sources.

Mizzou is near the top of possible suspects according to every single report out there. It's not a coincidence. Not that the Big 10 would be idiots not to take them, but they offer a lot of positives. They'd be interested in coming(Notre Dame is not, maybe Syracuse too), they have strong programs in the revenue sports(Rutgers does not), they have good academics(WVU and Kentucky do not), and they offer a major media market not reached by the Big 10(Pitt and to a lesser extent Syracuse do not).

Pitt and Syracuse are both in the East Coast market. It doesn't matter if neither is in a large city. They both offer another foothold in the largest tv market in the US. The state of Missouri doesn't even come close to matching that. Not picking on you guys, it's just the facts. If you want to go into state markets like you have you will notice that both NY and PA are larger markets than Missouri.

Populations 2009 estimates:

3.) New York 19,541,453

6 .)Pennsylvania 12,604,767

18.) Missouri 5,987,580

It's not even close. NY, over three times the population, PA over twice the population.

Both schools are close to Penn State and Ohio State also. It's a better fit by far for the Big Ten than Mizzou. If one of the two goes to the Big Ten look for the other along with ND to follow close behind. Especially when NBC doesn't re-up on ND.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pitt doesn't offer anything new because of Penn State's reach. Syracuse isn't going to switch NYC to being primary B10 viewership, it's over 4 hours from where all the people are, and that's just as far as half the Big East. Looking in terms of coasts or states isn't how the viewership gets divided, it's by metro markets.

[lukethedrifter]

Pitt doesn't offer anything new because of Penn State's reach. Syracuse isn't going to switch NYC to being primary B10 viewership, it's over 4 hours from where all the people are, and that's just as far as half the Big East. Looking in terms of coasts or states isn't how the viewership gets divided, it's by metro markets.

I think you think you know way more than you know. You keep shooting right past imo straight to having some sort of uber knowledge of the world of major college athletics, TV markets and the future of major conferences.
I'm a lifelong Mizzou fan but if they were so desirable why do they keep getting left in the minor bowls? Anyway, I'm sure they are on the radar for the Big Ten but not the clear cut, hands down, it's so obvious why can't everyone see it favorite you seem to think.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pitt doesn't offer anything new because of Penn State's reach. Syracuse isn't going to switch NYC to being primary B10 viewership, it's over 4 hours from where all the people are, and that's just as far as half the Big East. Looking in terms of coasts or states isn't how the viewership gets divided, it's by metro markets.

I think you think you know way more than you know. You keep shooting right past imo straight to having some sort of uber knowledge of the world of major college athletics, TV markets and the future of major conferences.
I'm a lifelong Mizzou fan but if they were so desirable why do they keep getting left in the minor bowls? Anyway, I'm sure they are on the radar for the Big Ten but not the clear cut, hands down, it's so obvious why can't everyone see it favorite you seem to think.

I've already said that I don't think Mizzou should be the clear-cut choice. The point has always been that they have a lot of positives working in their favor that could potentially benefit the Big 10 and that it's not unreasonable for them to be seriously considered.

[lukethedrifter]

For our Transmogrified Cubs fan

While Tressel pointed out the Big Ten's "enviable" central location could allow it to expand west, south or east, Paterno said he'd like to see the Big Ten "move east a little bit" for a broader television market.

In the past, Paterno has mentioned Pittsburgh, Rutgers and Syracuse, and in an ESPN interview in December he said, "Even Connecticut."

I know that Joe Pa is not the be all and end all. And I'm a Mizzou fan who thinks they have something to offer but ....

[lukethedrifter]

Beginning to look like the Transmogrified Cubs fan might be righter than rain.

[vinsanity]

Big Ten Alum here (BTFU!), and I'd be perfectly happy if they didn't expand west of Iowa or East of Columbus. I think Penn State is already a little far out of the way.

Pitt wouldn't bother me too much, I'd love to see Mizzou and Notre Dame.

But if they really start moving in to New York or Connecticut I think it might be a little bit of over expansion.

[Faceman]

Beginning to look like the Transmogrified Cubs fan might be righter than rain.

what did I miss?

[JoeMcKim]

If NCAA football ends up being 4 super 16 team conferences it'll probably mean the end of the Big 12 as we know it.

Potentially we would have something like this:

Mizzou and Nebraska to the Big Ten.
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahama, Oklahoma State to the SEC.
Colorado, Kansas and Kansas State to the Pac 10.

Which would pretty much just leave Iowa State, Baylor and Texas Tech on the outside looking in.

[lukethedrifter]

Beginning to look like the Transmogrified Cubs fan might be righter than rain.

what did I miss?

Pretty strong rumors that Mizzou and possibly Nebraska headed to Big Ten©