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Mike Kafka quarterback prospect > Tim Tebow quarterback prospect

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Blount just left the 49ers for the Titans:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ns-titans/

=D> =D> This.

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Hungary Jack wrote:Mike Kafka quarterback prospect > Tim Tebow quarterback prospect

I'll definitely be rooting for Kafka, but he's got plenty of question marks, including arm strength. Did he also play in a spread offense? I hope he does well, but as a "prospect", I'm not sure how well he grades out.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
Hungary Jack wrote:Mike Kafka quarterback prospect > Tim Tebow quarterback prospect

I'll definitely be rooting for Kafka, but he's got plenty of question marks, including arm strength. Did he also play in a spread offense? I hope he does well, but as a "prospect", I'm not sure how well he grades out.
I should have put in the blue font. Kafka's biggest physical issue is arm strength. I don't think he can throw the deep outs or seam routes in the NFL. He is very accurate, and generally makes good decisions. This will serve him very well in the NFL, but he's still a fringe prospect at best.

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You can argue that Tebow should not have been a first round pick.

But, I find it pretty hilarious that everyone has written him off, forever, as a QB.

It's like people take the scouts words as fact, and ignore the fact that scouts miss all the time. You can make a long list of traditional or pro-style QBs that have failed miserably at the NFL.

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Tebow's physical appearance and pedigree remind me of Scott Frost who was a standout QB at Nebraska in 96 and 97. He played 6 years in the NFL as a DB.

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clevername wrote:
phinstd wrote:
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
phinstd wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Claussen's stock really dropped after his last workout, I understand. Aopparently he threw a few intereceptions, and tried to blame it on the receivers......... which didn't make him any friends.
How would he throw interceptions in a workout? It was against air, and throwing to his own receivers with scouts watching. He never worked out before that because of his toe.
I'm pretty sure his last workout was like the 10th and he completed 57 of 59 or something, overthrowing two deep balls.
Exactly. That was his one and only workout, and it was against air, throwing to his own WR's.

There's no way he threw interceptions at any point since the season, so I'm not sure what Soc is talking about.
the interception stuff was on the QB camp with Gruden that was shown on SportsCenter. Gruden showed him a couple of picks from his time at ND to illustrate mistakes and Clausen pretty much threw his young receivers under the bus by claiming he threw it where he was supposed to but the receivers ran the wrong routes. Not many people liked that.
Well, that's not at all what he said.

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lukethedrifter wrote:phins and Kiper not looking so good on Clausen.
I'll admit he went later than I expected, but I'm not sure how I look like anything at this point. My belief is he is a good player...that hasn't been proven correct, or incorrect at this point has it?

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phinstd wrote:
clevername wrote:
phinstd wrote:
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
phinstd wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Claussen's stock really dropped after his last workout, I understand. Aopparently he threw a few intereceptions, and tried to blame it on the receivers......... which didn't make him any friends.
How would he throw interceptions in a workout? It was against air, and throwing to his own receivers with scouts watching. He never worked out before that because of his toe.
I'm pretty sure his last workout was like the 10th and he completed 57 of 59 or something, overthrowing two deep balls.
Exactly. That was his one and only workout, and it was against air, throwing to his own WR's.

There's no way he threw interceptions at any point since the season, so I'm not sure what Soc is talking about.
the interception stuff was on the QB camp with Gruden that was shown on SportsCenter. Gruden showed him a couple of picks from his time at ND to illustrate mistakes and Clausen pretty much threw his young receivers under the bus by claiming he threw it where he was supposed to but the receivers ran the wrong routes. Not many people liked that.
Well, that's not at all what he said.

The details of what I said were incorrect, but the point is still valid. I apologize for the confusion that I created by labeling it a "workout", which it obviously was not.

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phinstd wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:phins and Kiper not looking so good on Clausen.
I'll admit he went later than I expected, but I'm not sure how I look like anything at this point. My belief is he is a good player...that hasn't been proven correct, or incorrect at this point has it?
For some reason Clausen's fall is being used as irrefutable evidence that he's not good, as if Tom Brady wasn't passed over 6+ times by some teams.

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