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cardsfansince82 wrote:Ah I wasn't aware of his contract status. I still wouldn't give the Eagles anything more than jack [expletive] for McNabb. Can the Raiders shed JaMarcus Russell yet?
They should, and quick. Since there's no salary cap this year it would be perfect timing.

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letsgocards89 wrote:
cardsfansince82 wrote:Ah I wasn't aware of his contract status. I still wouldn't give the Eagles anything more than jack [expletive] for McNabb. Can the Raiders shed JaMarcus Russell yet?
They should, and quick. Since there's no salary cap this year it would be perfect timing.
I think he's due a $19.9M roster bonus this year, which is actually an advance against his future salaries. That indeed does count against the cap for 2010, so it would be a good time to release him.

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I've always thought McShay was a hack, but man, if this was really said, this is a giant slap to his (pretty) face:
One veteran NFL scout opined to Profootballtalk.com that the main reason Ole Miss QB Jevan Snead declared for the 2010 NFL Draft is because ESPN's Todd McShay predicted Snead would be a top-five pick.
"The (Snead) family thought McShay knew and everyone else was wrong," the scout said. "(Snead) has problems with game management, accuracy and leadership...but pretty boy Todd thought he was great because of (the Cotton Bowl) a year ago. McShay is a pretty face who comes across like he knows what he is talking about. He does have good presence, but knows nothing."

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phinstd wrote:I've always thought McShay was a hack, but man, if this was really said, this is a giant slap to his (pretty) face:
One veteran NFL scout opined to Profootballtalk.com that the main reason Ole Miss QB Jevan Snead declared for the 2010 NFL Draft is because ESPN's Todd McShay predicted Snead would be a top-five pick.
"The (Snead) family thought McShay knew and everyone else was wrong," the scout said. "(Snead) has problems with game management, accuracy and leadership...but pretty boy Todd thought he was great because of (the Cotton Bowl) a year ago. McShay is a pretty face who comes across like he knows what he is talking about. He does have good presence, but knows nothing."
Hmm. I've never seen McShay with Snead any higher than fourth among QBs, possibly even worse. His top 3 all along has been Bradford, Clausen and McCoy. It might have happened at some point early last season or going into last season before Snead killed a lot of his hype. Either way I'd say the Snead family comes out looking worse than McShay ever would.

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cardsfansince82 wrote:
phinstd wrote:I've always thought McShay was a hack, but man, if this was really said, this is a giant slap to his (pretty) face:
One veteran NFL scout opined to Profootballtalk.com that the main reason Ole Miss QB Jevan Snead declared for the 2010 NFL Draft is because ESPN's Todd McShay predicted Snead would be a top-five pick.
"The (Snead) family thought McShay knew and everyone else was wrong," the scout said. "(Snead) has problems with game management, accuracy and leadership...but pretty boy Todd thought he was great because of (the Cotton Bowl) a year ago. McShay is a pretty face who comes across like he knows what he is talking about. He does have good presence, but knows nothing."
Hmm. I've never seen McShay with Snead any higher than fourth among QBs, possibly even worse. His top 3 all along has been Bradford, Clausen and McCoy. It might have happened at some point early last season or going into last season before Snead killed a lot of his hype. Either way I'd say the Snead family comes out looking worse than McShay ever would.
McShay is a hack, and before the time to declare, McShay used to love Snead. I repeat, McShay is a hack.

I just love to hear scouts saying the same things I've always felt about McShay. When Scoutsinc came into a partnership with ESPN, they needed someone to put on air, and McShay was the face to put on there.
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As are the Sneads apparently.

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lukethedrifter wrote:As are the Sneads apparently.
Yes, it sure doesn't help Jevan any to hear they would believe something like that over the advisory board. Sounds a little made up, but any chance I see to make fun of McShay has to be taken.

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McNabb is not rated correctly by most fans. He is a Hall of Fame quarterback if he retired right now.

From 2000-2004. Five straight pro bowls, 54-19 as a starter, five straight division titles, 110 TDs against 50 INTs, 16,000 passing yards, and rushed for another 2,000 with 21 TDs. His peak was no doubt HOF.

His inaccuracy is overplayed. He isn't Manning but he sure as hell isn't J-Russ.

Least-intercepted quarterback per pass attempt of all time (4588 attempts-96 interceptions, 2.09%)

His WR corps have been mediocre for much of his career too.

1999 - 5-11
2000 - 11-5
2001 - 11-5
2002 - 12-4
2003 - 12-4
2004 - 13-3
2005 - 6-10
2006 - 10-6
2007 - 8-8
2008 - 9-6
2009 - 11-5

I think McNabb is still a great quarterback. Much less a dual-threat than before but still can get it done through the air. If Spagnolo is concerned about showing improvement and keeping his job, he needs to trade his second round pick for McNabb and select Suh or McCoy with the first overall selection. The Rams can find their quarterback of the future next year.

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I don't get the McNabb bashing. At all.

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At his peak he was a top 5 QB, but he's not anymore. I have nothing against him personally but I think his skills have been overstated all along and he should have at least one Super Bowl ring out of all the good teams he played on. My opinion of him is irrelevant though.

The point is it makes no sense for a mediocre or bad team to go after him. He's on the downside of his career arc. He could take an already good team to the playoffs and lose, but he's not going to magically lift a crappy team to new heights. What is the point of the Rams paying him 12 million to get 4 wins?

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