Update: HOLLIDAY A CARD 7yr/120 million, p178

[fanforever]

I really hope we don't give him 8 years.

if they contain team options after 5 years I wouldn't mnd

[Eephus Speed]

Countdown to the denial of Olney's and Ringolsby's rumors and the appearance of conflicting rumors: 10, 9, 8...

[Michael]

3:20pm: ESPN's Buster Olney tweets that the Cardinals' offer to Holliday "is believed to be over $100MM" (guaranteed, he tells me). Additionally, Ringolsby replied to my email and clarified that he's been told the Cards' eight-year, $140MM offer is guaranteed both in years and dollars

Hopefully Ringolsby is just as wrong as he was on the O's offer.

[haltz]

8/120 and 5/90 are pretty close to the same thing. In 2008 dollars you are paying him to be a 4.5 win player.

I don't understand this. One is 15 per year for 8 years. The other is 18 for 5.

That's pretty much the same thing, the longer you go the less AAV he gets. If he's a 4.5-win and you signed him for one year it'd be like $20 million. There's inflation and aging to deal with.

What I wouldn't understand is a preference to go more years unless you actually got a significant discount for doing so. That doesn't seem to be the case.

[cardsfansince82]

There's absolutely no reason to give him 8 years. We hold pretty much all of the leverage here.

[Jocephus]

Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports that the Cardinals' offer to free agent outfielder Matt Holliday is "believed to be" over $100 million.
Boras might not net an eight-year, $180 million contract for his client like he did with Mark Teixeira last winter, but the $100 million threshold is a significant one. With Jason Bay off the table, there's little reason for the Cardinals to increase their offer at this time, so the previously reported eight-year, $140 million contract sounds like a stretch.
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter

[phins]

Rumors, smoke, and innuendo.

Someone wake me when we have something a little more concrete.

[sighyoung]

Rumors, smoke, and innuendo.

Someone wake me when we have something a little more concrete.

Speaking of concrete, heyzeus' breakfast taco should be holding a press conference shortly.

[heyzeus]

Rumors, smoke, and innuendo.

Someone wake me when we have something a little more concrete.

Speaking of concrete, heyzeus' breakfast taco should be holding a press conference shortly.

The tweet I posted on the fate of that taco has mysteriously disappeared. Let the speculation commence.

[doe_boy]

Rumors, smoke, and innuendo.

Someone wake me when we have something a little more concrete.

Speaking of concrete, heyzeus' breakfast taco should be holding a press conference shortly.

The tweet I posted on the fate of that taco has mysteriously disappeared. Let the speculation commence.

Heard back from Ringolsby yet?