Civil Rights Up for Vote

[Radbird]

These folks are happy, but fortunately may be going broke.

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/workfi ... ailer.html

[Jocephus]

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[wart57]

I have always thought the ban on Gay marriage was listed as a moral issue, but really comes down to big corporations not wanting to pay out the benefits to same sex couples.

I voted against the ban here in AZ, but it passed anyway. I don't understand how someone can call themself a christian and openly descriminate, after all, Jesus said what ever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.....

Just my 2 cents tossed in to the well of this big thread.

[thrill]

I have always thought the ban on Gay marriage was listed as a moral issue, but really comes down to big corporations not wanting to pay out the benefits to same sex couples.

I voted against the ban here in AZ, but it passed anyway. I don't understand how someone can call themself a christian and openly descriminate, after all, Jesus said what ever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.....

Just my 2 cents tossed in to the well of this big thread.

Well said.

[clement]

I have always thought the ban on Gay marriage was listed as a moral issue, but really comes down to big corporations not wanting to pay out the benefits to same sex couples.

I voted against the ban here in AZ, but it passed anyway. I don't understand how someone can call themself a christian and openly descriminate, after all, Jesus said what ever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.....

Just my 2 cents tossed in to the well of this big thread.

While I agree with the gist of your post, the part in bold doesn't really gel with what has been happening. In California at least, large corporations were largely against Prop 8 and put some money and voice behind their positions. The people who voted for Prop 8 were mostly religious and conservative and it was mostly a moral issue. The most vocal backers who put their money behind Prop 8 were organized churches, large and small. I think large corporations are supportive of gay marriage for purely self-interested reasons: they want to be able to attract the best people, and there are more people that they are targeting to employ that will view their support favorably than unfavorably.

Small businesses might be a different matter and may have been more in favor of the Proposition for the reason you stated. But I really don't know. It might depend on the location of the small business though. If you're a small business in LA, SF, or some other large metropolitan area, your position might be more supportive of gay marriage than if your business is located in Fresno or Bakersfield (but if that's correct, that would suggest it's more of a moral judgment than a financial one).

[Radbird]

Mormon church blames powder hoax on gays

[ghostrunner]

I have always thought the ban on Gay marriage was listed as a moral issue, but really comes down to big corporations not wanting to pay out the benefits to same sex couples.

I voted against the ban here in AZ, but it passed anyway. I don't understand how someone can call themself a christian and openly descriminate, after all, Jesus said what ever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.....

Just my 2 cents tossed in to the well of this big thread.

While I agree with the gist of your post, the part in bold doesn't really gel with what has been happening. In California at least, large corporations were largely against Prop 8 and put some money and voice behind their positions. The people who voted for Prop 8 were mostly religious and conservative and it was mostly a moral issue. The most vocal backers who put their money behind Prop 8 were organized churches, large and small. I think large corporations are supportive of gay marriage for purely self-interested reasons: they want to be able to attract the best people, and there are more people that they are targeting to employ that will view their support favorably than unfavorably.

Small businesses might be a different matter and may have been more in favor of the Proposition for the reason you stated. But I really don't know. It might depend on the location of the small business though. If you're a small business in LA, SF, or some other large metropolitan area, your position might be more supportive of gay marriage than if your business is located in Fresno or Bakersfield (but if that's correct, that would suggest it's more of a moral judgment than a financial one).

Many of the large companies in Indianapolis were opposed to a ban here and were pretty instrumental in getting it stopped. They didn't want the state to scare away good potential employees who would need to relocate.

[Jocephus]

If Democracy Doesn't Work, Try Anarchy
by Chuck Norris

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNor ... chy?page=1

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

If Democracy Doesn't Work, Try Anarchy
by Chuck Norris

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNor ... chy?page=1

I agree with the majority of what he said there. These riots and acts of violence are ridiculous. I disagree with prop 8, but to go out and start attacking those who disagree with you is wrong. Period.

[lukethedrifter]

If Democracy Doesn't Work, Try Anarchy
by Chuck Norris

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNor ... chy?page=1

I agree with the majority of what he said there. These riots and acts of violence are ridiculous. I disagree with prop 8, but to go out and start attacking those who disagree with you is wrong. Period.

I disagree with most of what Chuck says but think the violence- if true- is foolish, dangerous and damaging to the cause.