co-irker

[sighyoung]

Is she hot?

Actually, cute. A cute 40 year old.

So, is this the formerly potentially datable co-worker, who now is a co-irker?

[Leroy]

From Do-Able to Strangle-Able.

I envy those days JCS.

[thrill]

it sounds like you work for a [expletive] company to tell the truth.

all the symptoms are there... mediocre sales/marketing ideas, lazy bums getting nice positions, single individuals who are anyway overworked shouldering stuff they shouldn't...

i hope this isn't the case, and you're just venting about the one guy who should be fired, but if it's symptomatic then you should probably move on

It's limited to marketing. Everything outside of that is great.

I've noticed, in my limited experience on this site, that when the weather is rainy people get a little testy with each other here and in the real world.

Not to kill your theory, but I live in Phoenix.

So the key is getting a degree in marketing so that you don't have to do any work?

I've done all the things you mentioned (plus a million more) and held the title "marketing director" or "marketing manager" etc for a long time.

It sounds like you are dealing with "sales" people or "business development" people...not people who actually do the work of marketing.

No the key would be to get the degree so I'd be the only who works and eventually someone would notice how worthless they are and how great I am.

Or something.

Business development is probably a more accurate title for them, though they call themselves marketing. A most accurate title would be "Sheister alcoholics who play lots of golf and suck up to the CEO."

[docellis]

That is weird to me. Most of the time actual marketing people are on the edge of burnout and don't stay in the field forever because it is too stressful.

[JCShutout]

Is she hot?

Actually, cute. A cute 40 year old.

So, is this the formerly potentially datable co-worker, who now is a co-irker?

He he, yeah.

So an update, I went off and worked on other stuff and let her do her thing. She developed the start to a pretty good start...

A quick backstory, my boss and I have wanted to work on upgrading the marketing materials for awhile, and it wasn't until this temp cornered the CEO (very small company) and convinced him to let us get back to work on it. She did this Wednesday. She's known for a week that her last day was today. We already hired someone to start Monday.

So she works on this and is taking things from her portfolio (I just found out) and incorporating them into our presentation, which is fine. She sent more stuff from her portfolio (to my boss today, and my boss asked me to look at "the stuff temp sent" since I'll be doing most of the marketing after the temp leaves. The temp suddenly takes it off my desk and says, "I don't feel comfortable and I feel like I'm being taken advantage of."

Wait a second. First off, I didn't know it was your portfolio. I wasn't paying attention to what you were working on. I was working on my own stuff yesterday. I thought you just downloaded stuff from the internet.

Secondly, I can appreciate you not wanting to give away your ideas since you won't be paid for them (I woulden't give them away), but why would you send us your stuff the same day you're leaving of you felt this way? You knew before this that you weren't staying. maybe she thought this would push them to hire her, but she knew a week ago today that we hired someone already. WTF crazy lady?

[docellis]

she might have thought she still had a chance at getting the job and was trying everything she could think of to get it.

[JCShutout]

Wow, this has been a crazy couple of days. The temp went and showed the CEO the unfinished presentation without consulting my (and her) boss. At the same time my boss was saying she was going to ask for the temp to stay on.

The temp wrote a very accusatory email to my boss too.

The most frustrating thing is, yeah, the presentation looks pretty good... and that's the same idea I had a couple of months ago, and that my boss liked, but we had more important projects which needed to be finished first. Because I'm not an ass who goes over my bosses head when I don't get my way, we put the project on hold to finish more important things first.

The temp is now staying on a bit to finish this project because she impressed the CEO enough (and as a temp she gets paid practically nothing), but I don't think I trust her. Its one thing to be assertive, its another thing to go behind people's backs. The temp complained to me (no power) when my boss was in a meeting and then ran to the CEO (with the exclamation of, "I'm not giving away my ideas for free!" before my boss got out of the meeting, knew what was going on, or could defend herself. Considering the co-irker is the one who offered to send her stuff to my boss, this sounds planned.

Would that qualify as passive aggressive?

[cardinalkarp]

Sounds like she was just doing everything she could to make sure she keeps her job. I can't say I blame her.

If she's making friends w/ the CEO I doubt she has much to worry about when it comes to your boss.

[JCShutout]

Sounds like she was just doing everything she could to make sure she keeps her job. I can't say I blame her.

If she's making friends w/ the CEO I doubt she has much to worry about when it comes to your boss.

Just seems like she could have waited the 20 minutes to talk to my boss first. When I needed to keep my job longer than what they hired me for. I went to my boss and oulined why I should stay. I'm not passive aggressive, I'm direct, and I don't go behind people's backs. This is a big reason why my boss likes me and calls me a "team player".

Those actions just don't inspire an abundance of trust in my book.

[cardinalkarp]

Sounds like she was just doing everything she could to make sure she keeps her job. I can't say I blame her.

If she's making friends w/ the CEO I doubt she has much to worry about when it comes to your boss.

Just seems like she could have waited the 20 minutes to talk to my boss first. When I needed to keep my job longer than what they hired me for. I went to my boss and oulined why I should stay. I'm not passive aggressive, I'm direct, and I don't go behind people's backs. This is a big reason why my boss likes me and calls me a "team player".

Those actions just don't inspire an abundance of trust in my book.

Who knows maybe she doesn't feel like she can trust your boss for some reason?