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JG1982 wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:
JG1982 wrote:
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Socnorb11 wrote:Talk is cheap, Mr. McAncient.
Talk is the reason Obama is where he is. He talks well. That's it. That's what he has to hang his hat on. That's why people like him.
Well, I'd hope he and you know...every single politician ever talk well.

What is this supposed to even mean?
That that's his single most endearing quality?

Which, is true
Umm, OK.

When was the last time we had a president whose speech wasn't their most "endearing quality"?
Have you EVER heard George W. Bush speak?
George W. Bush won...twice

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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

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JG1982 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Talk is cheap, Mr. McAncient.
Talk is the reason Obama is where he is. He talks well. That's it. That's what he has to hang his hat on. That's why people like him.

He'd make a great preacher or motivational speaker. At least he has a future.
So you've bought into the Republican notion that Obama's 16 years of service are meaningless?

Motivation is a good thing, especially when you believe in what you're preaching.
I haven't bought into anyone's notion. I guess being a state senator is nice and all. And most of his work as a U.S. Senator is running for president. When you speak well, sometimes you get places. Obviously.

16 years of "service". I guess you've bought into the liberal media.

I'm glad he believes in what he's preaching. I'd rather someone believe in what they say, even when they're wrong, than to lie. I'm just not buying what he's preaching.

Not a word.

But you buy what McCain is preaching? That he respects Obama, but it's OK if his colleagues mock him for two days straight?
So by using your logic, if my co-workers hate my boss, but I like my boss, I'm a hypocrite?

It's a dumbed down example, but an example nonetheless..just because his colleagues are mocking Obama doesn't mean a damn thing in what John McCain does or does not say about the man

Get off it already

If I respect someone, than I don't knowingly let my colleagues mock him. I'm not sure how you run your company. I guess in third grade your philosophy is pretty solid. But as a grown-up who is running for office, you'd better be prepared to back up what you say.

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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

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fanforever wrote:
JG1982 wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:
JG1982 wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Talk is cheap, Mr. McAncient.
Talk is the reason Obama is where he is. He talks well. That's it. That's what he has to hang his hat on. That's why people like him.
Well, I'd hope he and you know...every single politician ever talk well.

What is this supposed to even mean?
That that's his single most endearing quality?

Which, is true
Umm, OK.

When was the last time we had a president whose speech wasn't their most "endearing quality"?
Have you EVER heard George W. Bush speak?
George W. Bush won...twice
That's my point..

He won, and speech was NOWHERE near his most endearing quality

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BW23 wrote:September 4, 2008
Wrong. It was his dumbed-down horse-[expletive] "I speak plainly and I'm just one of ya'll" that convinced people the Iraq War and a constitutional amendment against gay marriage were good ideas. Bush connected extremely well with voters.

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clement wrote:
BW23 wrote:I think it's pretty clear. You can talk well without saying a word. Go back to last Thursday if you need a reference. It's certainly how he says it...not what he says.
For you. Not for me. I couldn't care less how great an orator he or any other politician is, I care about his positions on issues. Of course I want the president to be able to pronounce the words he is saying and be able to speak intelligently on issues without relying on cue cards, but aside from that relatively low hurdle, it's what they say that counts, not how.
Well, when he finally does say what he'll do, if he ever does, then you're right. I won't like it. Probably not a word.

Obamamania is running wild because of what a great orator he is not because of his positions.

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stlouie_lipp wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
JG1982 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
JG1982 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Talk is cheap, Mr. McAncient.
Talk is the reason Obama is where he is. He talks well. That's it. That's what he has to hang his hat on. That's why people like him.

He'd make a great preacher or motivational speaker. At least he has a future.
And McCain's reason for where he is is...?

He's a POW. Maybe you haven't heard.
Well let's put it this way folks, and I know this is (thankfully) not how it works..

If you had McCain, the POW, and Obama, the community organizer, and that's all you knew about them...which would you vote for?

Point being, I'd rather McCain have POW on his resume then what Obama has on his
This question couldn't be more pointless.
No, the point is clearly that while democrats may be hating on the POW crap, it's a huge part of his life..
Did you see the Democratic convention? Every single speaker talked about their admiration for his service to his country.
didn't you just say that talk is cheap?

It's cheap if your actions represent the opposite of what you say.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
JG1982 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:Talk is cheap, Mr. McAncient.
Talk is the reason Obama is where he is. He talks well. That's it. That's what he has to hang his hat on. That's why people like him.

He'd make a great preacher or motivational speaker. At least he has a future.
So you've bought into the Republican notion that Obama's 16 years of service are meaningless?

Motivation is a good thing, especially when you believe in what you're preaching.
I haven't bought into anyone's notion. I guess being a state senator is nice and all. And most of his work as a U.S. Senator is running for president. When you speak well, sometimes you get places. Obviously.

16 years of "service". I guess you've bought into the liberal media.

I'm glad he believes in what he's preaching. I'd rather someone believe in what they say, even when they're wrong, than to lie. I'm just not buying what he's preaching.

Not a word.

But you buy what McCain is preaching? That he respects Obama, but it's OK if his colleagues mock him for two days straight?
So by using your logic, if my co-workers hate my boss, but I like my boss, I'm a hypocrite?

It's a dumbed down example, but an example nonetheless..just because his colleagues are mocking Obama doesn't mean a damn thing in what John McCain does or does not say about the man

Get off it already

If I respect someone, than I don't knowingly let my colleagues mock him. I'm not sure how you run your company. I guess in third grade your philosophy is pretty solid. But as a grown-up who is running for office, you'd better be prepared to back up what you say.
classy again...please tell me how to live Mr. grown-up

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Although I love the passion for our country... let's settle down, folks.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:
BW23 wrote:September 4, 2008
Wrong. It was his dumbed-down horse-[expletive] "I speak plainly and I'm just one of ya'll" that convinced people the Iraq War and a constitutional amendment against gay marriage were good ideas. Bush connected extremely well with voters.
Okay.

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Stop sending 700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much.....

Sounds like a plan

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