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[AdmiralKird]

I think this fling thing may work out to be the best. I mean, as long as I don't prevent myself from talknig to other girls it shouldn't really be a big deal, right? I guess the point is that... well, as long as I keep takling to other girls, continiuing to talk to Haley won't be as bad as everyone thinks.

It's a bad idea, but no amount of internet forum advice is ever going to convince anyone not to follow their own heart and mind, so go do what you need to do.

[phins]

Tell me Kyle, is this fulfilling for you? Are you getting what you want out of this relationship at all?

Sounds to me like you're still letting her have all the cards. It also seems like you're finding advice that you want to hear, and following that. If all you need is motivation, I'll root ya on and let the chips fall where they may, but if what you want is honesty and head's up or a warning sign for the heartache and danger ahead, consider that light flashing.

And with regards to the heartbreak... well, here's the way I look at it: if I stop pursuing her in any form, there will be guaranteed heartbreak. If I just accept things for what they're worth, maybe I can just find satisfaction in what's there. Why don't I just try and make the best of the situation at hand? I would rather regret giving something a try than regret not doing anything at all and wondering what it it could have been like. Is that really that unreasonable? Does she have me this brainwashed?

Well, you're in the situation, and know how it is better than any of us, so that's not a question I can totally answer.

You seem like a good guy/kid, and I hate to see people make mistakes I've made. I've chased a girl who would give me just enough to keep me loving/liking her, and never enough to keep me completely happy. I was happy, but I wasn't HAPPY. That is basically my definition of settling.

As I got older, and started to move past that time in my life, and let other people in again, I realized what felt like happiness at the time was me trying too hard to make something work when it was just not right. Now, I've met a woman is great, and everything I could have ever wanted. It is in this time that I started to understand what I was doing before, and that even if it feels like I'm giving up, or will regret not giving things a try, I've learned that unless I'm getting everything I want/need out of a relationship, I just can't stay for anything less.

Girls have all the power in this world when it comes to relationships because they're just so darned pretty, smell good, wear cute clothes etc. and we guys just don't want to let go of the certainty of having one we really like, for the possibility of meeting something great at a later time. Good luck my friend, and sorry if I come off harsh at times, that's just the way people get through to me, so I probably project that onto others.

[Hudler]

Women own the keys to the hoo-haa,that is the only reason men put up with the manipulative crap that some of them try to pull. Be honest,if a guy friend was being as wishy-washy as this girl is you would stop hanging out with him,correct?

[tothebeach08]

I think this fling thing may work out to be the best. I mean, as long as I don't prevent myself from talknig to other girls it shouldn't really be a big deal, right? I guess the point is that... well, as long as I keep takling to other girls, continiuing to talk to Haley won't be as bad as everyone thinks.

you got it kid...play, play on

think of a fling as a practice game...work out all your kinks...and have fun!

if things get serious...cool...but let her come to you, you've already let her know where you stand.

Ok, so I have kinda taken up for this girl and made excuses for her behavior. This guys is right, you let her know, Again, how you feel so now take it for what it is, get what you can/want, and step back. Pursue all options and have fun. You think being 22 you should already have this figured out, but 22 is still a baby. Your just starting down this fun road of trying to read women's minds - - HAHA have fun with that. But that is a two way street too. It's the same way for women "we don't want to let go of the certainty of having one we really like for the possibility of meeting something greater at a later time". It's the same for everyone. That's why I still say being up front and honest is the only way to be. It would save everyone so much time and heartache. If you out to get laid, then say it, if you want more than say it. Real simple!!!

[wart57]

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, Newton was right, except where women are concerened. Every action can have any number of opposite reactions....that is why reading the female mind is so difficult for men.

[lukethedrifter]

[Don't worry, I'm going to fire myself from this thread after this.]



Girl wants to hang out, watch movies, go to the state fair, hold hands

Boy wants to do these as well plus canoodle and exchange "I really really like you"s

Girl is hip to some minor canoodling but wants to play around with Boy's Friend

Boy isn't comfortable with Girl sharing Googly Eyes and possible heavy petting and more with Friend.

Boy gets into disagreement with Girl over this. Quits "hanging out."

Friend doesn't dig Girl. Girl now available for jealousy-free "friendship."

Boy still wants canoodling and possibly I Love You's and maybe some Procreating (but only after a commitment)

Girl's Mother told her she's too young to get serious, to have Fun (but don't get Preggers)

Girl "hangs out" with Boy.

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