Dark Knight

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Stolen from someone else:

Harley Quinn - Wouldn't be a main villian, but it would be a good way to keep the Joker's legacy going without actually having to show him. Have her be the ringleader on the outside that he uses while he's locked up. Probably not, but could work.

Killer Croc - They used him in the Gotham Knight cartoon that they just released on DVD that takes place in the same "world" as Batman Begins and TDK. Circus performer with a disease that gives him scaly skin...files down his teeth, lives in the sewer, driven mad by Scarecrow's chemicals and calls himself Killer Croc.

Zsasz - Appeared briefly in Batman Begins as the guy that Dr Crane testified in defense of. He's a serial killer that tallies his kills by inflicting scars on himself. Probably would be a minor character, not a main villian.

I could see some combination of Scarecrow and Killer Croc in the next movie. I also think the Riddler could work like was said. Hold the city hostage, and

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Batman saving the city from him gives redemption after they hunt him earlier in the movie like at the end of TDK

I've also read speculation that

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Aaron Eckhart signed for 2 Batman movies

[OmahaCard79]

To heck with it. They need to make Dr. Tito Daka from the (quite racist) 1943 batman serials the main villain. He could use radium guns and zombies to defeat batman!

I bet it makes me the biggest nerd ever to admit that I've seen that.

[OmahaCard79]

I've also read speculation that

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Aaron Eckhart signed for 2 Batman movies

Interesting. I haven't heard that before. If he is

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signed for 2 movies, then I think we'll be seeing him in another movie very much alive and well.

[BenNX74205]

I don't think Mr. Freeze would work all that well for this type of semi-realistic universe. Of course, my only experiences with the character are from the 60's tv show, Batman and Robin, and the animated series. In what way would you see the character presented as to be believable in a movie such as these?

I haven't thought through how to get his character to work, and I recognized the problems with freeze rays and what not, but his story has a strong element of tragedy. His wife trapped in cryogenic stasis suffering from a terminal disease. Him working to save her, and injured in an accident. If the focus was on his misunderstood "villain" nature where he's working to save his wife (and not spout horrible one-liners like Arnold), then I think there's at least enough potential to work with his character to see if he could work.

The Riddler seems most likely, since he doesn't rely on some kind of "special power" (like Freeze, Ivy, etc) but uses his wits. He'd probably be more along the lines of the version of the Riddler in "The Batman"--a high-tech supergenius that doesn't dress in question marks like a man trying to tell us how to get free money from the government. As an aside, I feel the new Batman films are also very much in line with the characters in "The Batman" to a degree. That show's Joker dresses in a straight jacket and is much darker than the portrayal done in the Animated Series universe (which was voiced amazingly well by Mark Hamill).

A Riddler movie could turn into something like Die Hard with a Vengeance, with Batman running around solving puzzle after puzzle. It could be very good, but it would be very different from the first two movies. That certainly isn't a bad thing, but I think Freeze is the 2nd best Bat-Villain when done correctly. I mean, Dark Knight teched up some nice Sonar Vision for Batman to use, so it's at least possible they could come up with something for Freeze to use.....perhaps.

[cardsfansince82]

Clement could just watch Persepolis for the French fix. i enjoyed it, btw.

But I actually agree with pretty much everything Clement has said in this thread.

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Everything was perfect the first two hours and last bit just turned into a clusterexpletive. The cellphone technology was stupid and distracting, and most importantly unnecessary. Also I kind of thought the boat situation was distracting too, even though I guess they needed something to set up the final confrontation(s).

[GatewaySnayke]

This isn't my type of movie either. I usually prefer ones where the actresses make 250 films over four years.

[TimeForGuinness]

Riddler: Possible. However, it could be too close to the joker. I am still leaning towards this one depending on how they develop the character. Think more like the movie seven rather than jim carrey.

This is really funny because JL21 and I were talking about this very thing at the bar last night. We both think it would be a great ending to the trilogy.

[JL21]

Catwoman is too cartoonish for this incarnation. It would be ridiculous to have her in it.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Catwoman is too cartoonish for this incarnation. It would be ridiculous to have her in it.

It's in the portrayal, I'd think. The Joker is a pretty cartoonish character as well. If you used some of the comic backstory it could work. Former prostitute, discovers she's possibly Carmine Falcone's illegitimate daughter, moves from petty theft to costumed burgarly after being "inspired" by Batman(fits the previous movie's themes about escalation), I could see that working.

[JL21]

But it's a lot easier to make a clown dark than it is a prostitute dressed as a cat.