Dark Knight

[TimeForGuinness]

In the words of the Joker, "Why...So...Serious" Clement?

Well, I just don't think it was *that* good. To be honest, I was really enthralled but it lost me a bit toward the end. I don't they handled the transformation of two-face all that well and the final showdown was a mess. So... good, not great. The rant is because of all the over-hyping of it and the lack of any critical judgment of the movie at all on this board. I mean, this was also the board that went haywire for '300' when it first came out. And this is a rant.

But I agree with you guys... a good movie if it's really a good movie, it shouldn't matter what genre it comes from. And I actually agree that this movie is better than Star Wars (but I never thought Star Wars was a great movie to begin with).

Part of me is disappointed because I think this could have been a movie that transcends its genre, but I think ultimately it fell a little bit short of that.

Ok, ok, ok..... see, when have you ever known me to watch a movie without being stupidly critical about it? I'd hate to lump this thing together with 300. I thought 300 was awful. As entertainment, it was fine- look at all the pretty special effects!- but as a film, it was crap.

Please read this spoiler, if you've seen the movie.

[SHOW]

So what about the perfect juxtaposition scene, mid-movie? The first 1/3 or 1/2 of the movie, they've been painting Dent as the "face" of what Wayne has been trying to accomplish in the suit. And there in the middle is Dent, gun to the mob guy's head (in the police uniform). And it jumps back and forth from that, to Wayne/Batman mercilessly beating the crap out of the mob boss (Eric Roberts). Both sides of the coin- the vigilante, and the public defender, both alleged "heroes"- checking their morals at the door, and put side by side. Very purposely, and excellently, done, IMO.

[SHOW]

Plus you have the comparison of both Dent, Batman (Wayne), and the Joker.

The Joker is a psychopathic killer...totally evil...never good.
Dent is a hero who lives long enough to become a villain...but kills with a purpose...those who hurt him
Batman (Wayne) struggles with what Dent could become...a killer...but doesn't...which is why he is the hero.

All purposefully put together in one move...all played well...to show the levels a person can go through and who has the moral fiber to keep being "good".

[JL21]

Another spoiler...

[SHOW]

Batman is actually Bruce Wayne

[TimeForGuinness]

Another spoiler...

[SHOW]

Batman is actually Bruce Wayne

LMAO

...and

[SHOW]

Maggie was definitely better and sexier than Katie

[clevername]

I often find it much easier and enjoyable to go to the movies alone. There's no jumbling of schedules or showtimes, no [expletive] about getting there earlier for appropriate seats (I'm particular about that), and I don't want to talk to anyone during the movie anyway. Social norms and perceptions be damned.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Let's make things clear for a second. 300 was total garbage. The Dark Knight was awesome. Maybe if you wait for the DVD you can put on the french subtitles or something and like it more.

But seriously, when's the last time this many good actors were all in a film and put together good to phenomenal performances? Ledger, Eckhart, Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, Gyllenhaal, even Fichtner and Roberts were appropriate in their shady roles.

[clement]

Man, I absolutely love watching movies alone. I like watching them with friends too, but sometimes alone is just perfect.

JL: yeah, I think there were a lot of really great scenes in Dark Knight, the one you mentioned being one of them. If you really think the movie is only about a 7.5 out of 10, then we're probably pretty much in agreement. Not to be lost in this rant is the fact that I really enjoyed Dark Knight. And I admittedly don't get excited by action blockbuster type movies. So yeah, Dark Knight is far more memorable than Transformers, and even the Spiderman movies, but it's not more memorable than Chinatown, or even a number of new movies I've seen this year. The distance (for me) between Dark Knight and something like No Country for Old Men or Garage, is very wide.

TG: yeah movie junkie is a pretty accurate description. But I like slow, cerebral movies where there is not a lot of action. Hollywood movies rarely interest me much.

[JL21]

We have pretty similar tastes. I'm trying to think of what's come out in the last 12 months that I enjoyed more. There Will be Blood, No Country for Old Men, and I'm Not There.... but that's it.

I have a hard time comparing across genres, though. That's just me.

[maddash]

Why on earth can't people just go see a movie alone?

The temptation to masturbate is simply too great for some.

[Popeye_Card]

Why on earth can't people just go see a movie alone?

The temptation to masturbate is simply too great for some.

The popcorn trick is always fun. Even when you have to pull it on yourself.

[Cronos]

Why on earth can't people just go see a movie alone?

The temptation to masturbate is simply too great for some.

The popcorn trick is always fun. Even when you have to pull it on yourself.