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I think it's all relative. I can't think of the last summer blockbuster that was actually a genuinely good movie. The first two Spider-Man movies were a lot of fun and I enjoyed them, but they were definitely the kind of films where you leave your brain at the door.

After a vast wasteland of two Hulk movies, Spider-Man 3, Transformers, two mediocre Fantastic Four movies, hell- go all the way back to the original Batman movies, and Dick Tracy, etc., etc., etc...., Dark Knight stands out quite a bit.

By no means would I put it on par with, say, The Godfather, or Lawrence of Arabia, or Sunset Boulevard. Then again, if a film like Star Wars can be an AFI top 100, I don't know why this one couldn't, either. Frankly, I think this one runs laps around the original Star Wars. The only thing Star Wars did better- and it's a huge point- is that it was technologically ground-breaking. But the script, the dialogue, the acting, the camera work.... Nolan's film hits all that stuff out of the park.

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JL21 wrote:I think it's all relative. I can't think of the last summer blockbuster that was actually a genuinely good movie. The first two Spider-Man movies were a lot of fun and I enjoyed them, but they were definitely the kind of films where you leave your brain at the door.

After a vast wasteland of two Hulk movies, Spider-Man 3, Transformers, two mediocre Fantastic Four movies, hell- go all the way back to the original Batman movies, and Dick Tracy, etc., etc., etc...., Dark Knight stands out quite a bit.

By no means would I put it on par with, say, The Godfather, or Lawrence of Arabia, or Sunset Boulevard. Then again, if a film like Star Wars can be an AFI top 100, I don't know why this one couldn't, either. Frankly, I think this one runs laps around the original Star Wars. The only thing Star Wars did better- and it's a huge point- is that it was technologically ground-breaking. But the script, the dialogue, the acting, the camera work.... Nolan's film hits all that stuff out of the park.
I agree with everything you said...except the two mediocre Fantastic Four movies...they were both horrible.

...horrible.

I would definitely put the Dark Knight above Star Wars and why not? Great plot, great villians, moral choices, and a great ending...not sappy, not campy or corny...just a great movie. I was honestly creeping closer to the edge of my seat during this movie. I don't remember another movie doing that to me.

In the words of the Joker, "Why...So...Serious" Clement?

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This only confirms to me that I'll love the hell out of this movie as I pretty much disagree with every one of clement's opinions on the subject.

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AdmiralKird wrote:I'm really pissed I can't see this movie. I'll spare you all the very long angry rant, that clement and Thatguy had to sit through in flashchat.

Basically, my lady friend and I made plans a week in advance to see it Friday night, then ditched to go see it with all our other friends, now there's no one left I care to see it with, and I was really, really, really looking forward to seeing it on opening night. We aren't on speaking terms even though she insists on telling me that its my fault for not stopping her in time from her changing plans and she's not the least bit sorry and would rather try and insult me than reach an understanding. Its been three years, and after what she did and how shes reacted I no longer want anything to do with her.

I doubt I'll get around to see this movie at all now, and I don't know if I really want to...
If I lived anywhere near Springfield I'd offer to go, but, alas, I don't. That sucks about the lady friend, but you should still go see the movie some time.

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Why on earth can't people just go see a movie alone?

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Let's get serious people.

Fantastic Four has Jessica Alba in her undergarments for a few glorious seconds.

Does Dark Knight have anything like that? No.

If you're keeping score at home, that's Fantastic Four 1, Dark Knight eleventy billion.

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thrill wrote:Why on earth can't people just go see a movie alone?
Bingo.

It's not like seeing a movie is something that requires social interaction. In fact, it's discouraged. If you're talking during a movie, you're a turd.

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TimeForGuinness wrote:In the words of the Joker, "Why...So...Serious" Clement?
Well, I just don't think it was *that* good. To be honest, I was really enthralled but it lost me a bit toward the end. I don't they handled the transformation of two-face all that well and the final showdown was a mess. So... good, not great. The rant is because of all the over-hyping of it and the lack of any critical judgment of the movie at all on this board. I mean, this was also the board that went haywire for '300' when it first came out. And this is a rant.

But I agree with you guys... a good movie if it's really a good movie, it shouldn't matter what genre it comes from. And I actually agree that this movie is better than Star Wars (but I never thought Star Wars was a great movie to begin with).

Part of me is disappointed because I think this could have been a movie that transcends its genre, but I think ultimately it fell a little bit short of that.

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Popeye_Card wrote:Let's get serious people.

Fantastic Four has Jessica Alba in her undergarments for a few glorious seconds.

Does Dark Knight have anything like that? No.

If you're keeping score at home, that's Fantastic Four 1, Dark Knight eleventy billion.
You need some [expletive].

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What's your favorite movie, clement?

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