Robert E. Lee Was A Blithering Idiot

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Stonewall Jackson ftw.

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thrill wrote:Stonewall Jackson ftw.
The only problem with that is that the Duke boys didn't drive around in the General Jackson.

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AMERICA'S BEST GENERAL


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M1IRONMIKE wrote:AMERICA'S BEST GENERAL


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"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. "

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RC21* wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:If any of you haven't read Killer Angels do so asap.
I was going to say the same about Alan T. Nolan's "Lee Considered", which would support greenback's assertions about Robert E. Lee. The book takes the Lee myth and renders it swiss cheese.
I plan on reading Killer Angels again as soon as I'm finished with Longstreet. I will also check out RC's book.

The thing that has surprised me is not only Lee, but several of the famous generals on both sides made some terrible mistakes that were easily avoidable, and were very costly.

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Spider John wrote:
RC21* wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:If any of you haven't read Killer Angels do so asap.
I was going to say the same about Alan T. Nolan's "Lee Considered", which would support greenback's assertions about Robert E. Lee. The book takes the Lee myth and renders it swiss cheese.
I plan on reading Killer Angels again as soon as I'm finished with Longstreet. I will also check out RC's book.

The thing that has surprised me is not only Lee, but several of the famous generals on both sides made some terrible mistakes that were easily avoidable, and were very costly.
Just a fair warning about it- it's a very anti-Lee book. Here's the amazon description:
From Library Journal
Marching in the tracks of such historians as Bruce Catton, Thomas Connelly, and T. Harry Williams, Nolan tries to unhorse the mythic Lee. In pointing out the contradictions between the legend and the man, Nolan shows that Lee the slaveholder was not antislavery, that the reluctant secessionist endorsed Southern independence, that the general lost the war by his repeated offensive thrusts and provincial vision--and more. Lawyer Nolan's brief challenges all the commonplaces by insisting that we look at the record rather than the legend in viewing the man, and through him, the war itself. Nolan's debunking is less original than he claims, and his own reading of Lee is somewhat idiosyncratic. But he makes a forceful case for rethinking Lee and all the myths his memory has draped over the Lost Cause. A provocative book, highly recommended for university and major public libraries.

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thrill wrote:Stonewall Jackson ftw.
I graduated from Stonewall Jackson High School in Virginia, right next to the battlefield where Bull Run one and two were fought. Or the battle of Manassas, depending on who you ask.

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G. Keenan wrote:
thrill wrote:Stonewall Jackson ftw.
I graduated from Stonewall Jackson High School in Virginia, right next to the battlefield where Bull Run one and two were fought. Or the battle of Manassas, depending on who you ask.

First Manassas was one of the great upsets in history. The heavily favored and overconfident Northerners brought out their picnic baskets and parasols then got their asses handed to them.

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