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wart57 wrote:Why is it ok to hate one person because of their beliefs, but not ok to hate someone else for their beliefs?
To quote Bob Dylan, don't hate nothin' at all except hatred.

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this is a loaded statement, but the problem with evangelicals is they believe what they believe is what God wants and they do so without any evidence other than their own emotions. And they believe it's their job to make everyone else believe the same thing.

No one will convince this woman she's wrong. She won't apologize.

Taking it to a further extreme, she's probably as fervent in her belief that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that they should be "stopped" as terrorists believe they're right to use violence to get their message across. That's not to say she advocates using physical violence against homosexuals, only speaking on the conviction with which she likely believes what she says.

The fact that she doesn't believe what she's saying is hate speech is all you need to know. She doesn't think she's being harmful (even emotionally) to anyone. She's trying to "help".

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clevername wrote:this is a loaded statement, but the problem with evangelicals is they believe what they believe is what God wants and they do so without any evidence other than their own emotions. And they believe it's their job to make everyone else believe the same thing.

No one will convince this woman she's wrong. She won't apologize.

Taking it to a further extreme, she's probably as fervent in her belief that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that they should be "stopped" as terrorists believe they're right to use violence to get their message across. That's not to say she advocates using physical violence against homosexuals, only speaking on the conviction with which she likely believes what she says.

The fact that she doesn't believe what she's saying is hate speech is all you need to know. She doesn't think she's being harmful (even emotionally) to anyone. She's trying to "help".
So evangelivcals are wrong because there is no proof of their beliefs?

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wart57 wrote:
clevername wrote:this is a loaded statement, but the problem with evangelicals is they believe what they believe is what God wants and they do so without any evidence other than their own emotions. And they believe it's their job to make everyone else believe the same thing.

No one will convince this woman she's wrong. She won't apologize.

Taking it to a further extreme, she's probably as fervent in her belief that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that they should be "stopped" as terrorists believe they're right to use violence to get their message across. That's not to say she advocates using physical violence against homosexuals, only speaking on the conviction with which she likely believes what she says.

The fact that she doesn't believe what she's saying is hate speech is all you need to know. She doesn't think she's being harmful (even emotionally) to anyone. She's trying to "help".
So evangelivcals are wrong because there is no proof of their beliefs?
Let's go back a step. Are you indicating that it's not ok to have problems with people because of their beliefs? Let's say that I believe that all Cub fans should be castrated so they don't breed anymore. Would criticism of that be unwarranted?

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RC21* wrote:
wart57 wrote:
clevername wrote:this is a loaded statement, but the problem with evangelicals is they believe what they believe is what God wants and they do so without any evidence other than their own emotions. And they believe it's their job to make everyone else believe the same thing.

No one will convince this woman she's wrong. She won't apologize.

Taking it to a further extreme, she's probably as fervent in her belief that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that they should be "stopped" as terrorists believe they're right to use violence to get their message across. That's not to say she advocates using physical violence against homosexuals, only speaking on the conviction with which she likely believes what she says.

The fact that she doesn't believe what she's saying is hate speech is all you need to know. She doesn't think she's being harmful (even emotionally) to anyone. She's trying to "help".
So evangelivcals are wrong because there is no proof of their beliefs?
Let's go back a step. Are you indicating that it's not ok to have problems with people because of their beliefs? Let's say that I believe that all Cub fans should be castrated so they don't breed anymore. Would criticism of that be unwarranted?
I support that belief.
What I am saying, is that it is ok to dissagree, and dislike someones opinion, but I am just wondering why it is ok to hate Christians, but not homosexuals, or blacks, or hispanics, or Muslims, or Leroy. I don't think we should hate any of those groups, except maybe Leroy.

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wart57 wrote:
RC21* wrote:
wart57 wrote:
clevername wrote:this is a loaded statement, but the problem with evangelicals is they believe what they believe is what God wants and they do so without any evidence other than their own emotions. And they believe it's their job to make everyone else believe the same thing.

No one will convince this woman she's wrong. She won't apologize.

Taking it to a further extreme, she's probably as fervent in her belief that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that they should be "stopped" as terrorists believe they're right to use violence to get their message across. That's not to say she advocates using physical violence against homosexuals, only speaking on the conviction with which she likely believes what she says.

The fact that she doesn't believe what she's saying is hate speech is all you need to know. She doesn't think she's being harmful (even emotionally) to anyone. She's trying to "help".
So evangelivcals are wrong because there is no proof of their beliefs?
Let's go back a step. Are you indicating that it's not ok to have problems with people because of their beliefs? Let's say that I believe that all Cub fans should be castrated so they don't breed anymore. Would criticism of that be unwarranted?
I support that belief.
What I am saying, is that it is ok to dissagree, and dislike someones opinion, but I am just wondering why it is ok to hate Christians, but not homosexuals, or blacks, or hispanics, or Muslims, or Leroy. I don't think we should hate any of those groups, except maybe Leroy.
The source of the hatred doesn't lie in their Christianity. The source of the hatred lies in their hatred and intolerance.

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RC21* wrote:
wart57 wrote:
RC21* wrote:
wart57 wrote:
clevername wrote:this is a loaded statement, but the problem with evangelicals is they believe what they believe is what God wants and they do so without any evidence other than their own emotions. And they believe it's their job to make everyone else believe the same thing.

No one will convince this woman she's wrong. She won't apologize.

Taking it to a further extreme, she's probably as fervent in her belief that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that they should be "stopped" as terrorists believe they're right to use violence to get their message across. That's not to say she advocates using physical violence against homosexuals, only speaking on the conviction with which she likely believes what she says.

The fact that she doesn't believe what she's saying is hate speech is all you need to know. She doesn't think she's being harmful (even emotionally) to anyone. She's trying to "help".
So evangelivcals are wrong because there is no proof of their beliefs?
Let's go back a step. Are you indicating that it's not ok to have problems with people because of their beliefs? Let's say that I believe that all Cub fans should be castrated so they don't breed anymore. Would criticism of that be unwarranted?
I support that belief.
What I am saying, is that it is ok to dissagree, and dislike someones opinion, but I am just wondering why it is ok to hate Christians, but not homosexuals, or blacks, or hispanics, or Muslims, or Leroy. I don't think we should hate any of those groups, except maybe Leroy.
The source of the hatred doesn't lie in their Christianity. The source of the hatred lies in their hatred and intolerance.
So they are then intolerant of other people being intolerent.... makes sense to me.

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wart57 wrote:So they are then intolerant of other people being intolerent.... makes sense to me.
In essence, yes. But I do think it's a pretty gross simplification of the matter.

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RC21* wrote:
wart57 wrote:So they are then intolerant of other people being intolerent.... makes sense to me.
In essence, yes. But I do think it's a pretty gross simplification of the matter.
That is me in a nut shell, gross and simple.

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It's biggotry in my book, plain and simple.

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