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omaha_red wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote: Johnny Cash wasn't glorifying violence, though. Rap artists do.
Dude you're wrong. You just are. It is indeed possible for you to admit you misspoke and made a sweeping statement about something you know very little about. No one would hold it against you.
Look at the rest of the lyrics. He's in prison, and he explains WHY he's in prison. He admits that he made mistakes and DESERVES to be in prison. He regrets it. How is that glorifying violence?
I wasn't taking exception to that. I took exception to "Rap artists do."

No they don't. Some do, most don't. For someone to admit they are almost completely ignorant on a subject and to continue to argue about it is ridiculous.

It would be akin to me arguing with a woman over which hurts more, getting kicked in the nuts or giving birth.
thrill.. it's not worth.. it's obviously more important to him to be right no matter what..
well done socnorb.. you're right.. you win.
It has nothing to do with right or wrong. I'm telling you why I PERSONALLY don't like it.

You're entitled to feel however you choose. And I don't hold it against you. Those who understand the music and can differentiate are certainly going to look at it differently. I've already stated that.

I'm not sure why you're taking this so personally.

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Re: People who hate Hip Hop Music

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Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote: Johnny Cash wasn't glorifying violence, though. Rap artists do.
Dude you're wrong. You just are. It is indeed possible for you to admit you misspoke and made a sweeping statement about something you know very little about. No one would hold it against you.
Look at the rest of the lyrics. He's in prison, and he explains WHY he's in prison. He admits that he made mistakes and DESERVES to be in prison. He regrets it. How is that glorifying violence?
I wasn't taking exception to that. I took exception to "Rap artists do."

No they don't. Some do, most don't. For someone to admit they are almost completely ignorant on a subject and to continue to argue about it is ridiculous.

It would be akin to me arguing with a woman over which hurts more, getting kicked in the nuts or giving birth.
thrill.. it's not worth.. it's obviously more important to him to be right no matter what..
well done socnorb.. you're right.. you win.
It has nothing to do with right or wrong. I'm telling you why I PERSONALLY don't like it.

You're entitled to feel however you choose. And I don't hold it against you. Those who understand the music and can differentiate are certainly going to look at it differently. I've already stated that.

I'm not sure why you're taking this so personally.
i don't take anything anyone says on a message board seriously..
we're arguing points.. plain and simple.

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omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.
I'm stating my opinion. That's all. It has nothing to do with you.

And I'd appreciate it if you stop implying that I'm ignorant. If you can't have a discussion without spewing personal insults, then I think that is "bad".

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omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote: Johnny Cash wasn't glorifying violence, though. Rap artists do.
Dude you're wrong. You just are. It is indeed possible for you to admit you misspoke and made a sweeping statement about something you know very little about. No one would hold it against you.
Look at the rest of the lyrics. He's in prison, and he explains WHY he's in prison. He admits that he made mistakes and DESERVES to be in prison. He regrets it. How is that glorifying violence?
I wasn't taking exception to that. I took exception to "Rap artists do."

No they don't. Some do, most don't. For someone to admit they are almost completely ignorant on a subject and to continue to argue about it is ridiculous.

It would be akin to me arguing with a woman over which hurts more, getting kicked in the nuts or giving birth.
thrill.. it's not worth.. it's obviously more important to him to be right no matter what..
well done socnorb.. you're right.. you win.
It has nothing to do with right or wrong. I'm telling you why I PERSONALLY don't like it.

You're entitled to feel however you choose. And I don't hold it against you. Those who understand the music and can differentiate are certainly going to look at it differently. I've already stated that.

I'm not sure why you're taking this so personally.
i don't take anything anyone says on a message board seriously..
we're arguing points.. plain and simple.
My only point is that there's nothing in country music that's remotely as disgusting as some (not all) of the rap music that's out there. Do you disagree with that?

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Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.
I'm stating my opinion. That's all. It has nothing to do with you.

And I'd appreciate it if you stop implying that I'm ignorant. If you can't have a discussion without spewing personal insults, then I think that is "bad".
He said you sound ignorant. He didn't call you ignorant.

Everyone settle down or this thread will be getting locked.

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thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.
I'm stating my opinion. That's all. It has nothing to do with you.

And I'd appreciate it if you stop implying that I'm ignorant. If you can't have a discussion without spewing personal insults, then I think that is "bad".
He said you sound ignorant. He didn't call you ignorant.
I know the difference.

I don't appreciate either one.

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Re: People who hate Hip Hop Music

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Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.
I'm stating my opinion. That's all. It has nothing to do with you.

And I'd appreciate it if you stop implying that I'm ignorant. If you can't have a discussion without spewing personal insults, then I think that is "bad".
i never said it had anything to do with me.. you keep saying that.

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Re: People who hate Hip Hop Music

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Socnorb11 wrote:
thrill wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.
I'm stating my opinion. That's all. It has nothing to do with you.

And I'd appreciate it if you stop implying that I'm ignorant. If you can't have a discussion without spewing personal insults, then I think that is "bad".
He said you sound ignorant. He didn't call you ignorant.
I know the difference.

I don't appreciate either one.
If you know the difference, why accuse him of a personal attack when he was just attacking your posts?

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Socnorb11 wrote:
omaha_red wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:

I'm not arguing about anything. I'm telling you why I personally steer clear.......
but the way you're doing it is making you sound really ignorant
you're generalizing and stereotyping.. those things are bad.
I'm stating my opinion. That's all. It has nothing to do with you.

And I'd appreciate it if you stop implying that I'm ignorant. If you can't have a discussion without spewing personal insults, then I think that is "bad".
But you're not stating your opinion. If this was a discussion of musical aesthetics, sure, that's your opinion, how could we argue with that. But what you're doing is making a gross generalization of the "rap industry" that is based on your ignorance of the genre. It's false information, and it's unfair.

As it's been said, sure there are vulgar rappers out there, but it's a passive form of music, you don't have to listen to the vulgar ones. But for you to say they're all in the same "group" is a major over-generalization, and a somewhat dangerous one.

It would be like telling a parent "I don't like any kids, because most kids are brats"... while their kid is standing right there.

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