This show is just awful

[JL21]

I enjoy Desperate Housewives. There, I said it.

Make the 'D' and the 'H' lower-case letters and I agree with you.

[planet planet]

I know this is a rant, but I think you're all taking it too seriously. It's a show about four women, not "women." They're exaggerated to represent certain aspects of women, but they're still a very specific group living a certain lifestyle in a certain place. I don't think it purports to represent farmers wives in Iowa or soccer moms.

There are things about it that bug me - mostly the goofy clothes, the flaky lead character - but I still find it to be very well written and funny in general. I'm also a big fan of Journeyman.

Exactly. The show was not intended to be some sort of guidebook to women behavior. It's fun, it's funny, and it's fiction! You might have a valid complaint about why women are drawn to these sort of escape shows. And Snayke, it sounds like you've got some morality issues you need to work out. You like Charlotte because she's the least trampy of the group? Not really. She banged that guy she just met at the wedding while the wedding was going on. In the meantime, she's entirely vapid and seeking a man to validate her the whole time. As a fictional character, unfortunately she hits a little too close to home with some women I know.

[jimedmondsfan]

I a proud to say I have never watched a minute of this show.

[GatewaySnayke]

PP, I realize that being less trampy when compared to her friends is like being the skinniest kid at fat camp or whatever, but remember that I have limited viewing of the show. Plus, Kristin Davis way better looking than anyone else, so that counts, too.

And I have to disagree with ghost that it doesn't speak to women. I find that it strived to empower them. Suppose "The Man Show" was a serious take on being a male. SATC is the female version of it. I'm wondering if they ever had an episode built around the Slutty Girl standby -- "when a guy sleeps around, he's a God. When a girl does it, it's wrong?"

I'm not sure of a show in the past 10 years besides "Jackass" that has had such a powerful effect on people. Whereas Jackass made it OK for guys to beat themselves into a coma, SATC makes it OK for girls to act like a combination of Carrie Bradshaw and Samantha Jones (I had to look that up).

[docellis]

I'm not sure of a show in the past 10 years besides "Jackass" that has had such a powerful effect on people. Whereas Jackass made it OK for guys to beat themselves into a coma, SATC makes it OK for girls to act like a combination of Carrie Bradshaw and Samantha Jones (I had to look that up).

This is the most bizarre premise I've heard in a while.

[GatewaySnayke]

I like to think in the abstract. If that's even the abstract.

[haltz]

I don't like the show because all of the dialogue plays as extremely contrived. Also, if a girl ever describes herself to you in this fashion: "I'm a Carrie" or "I'm a Samantha," then you should run and hide, of course. That's more likely to happen several years ago, though.

Who cares if one of them likes to have sex? They're adults. It doesn't necessitate a slutty girl standby or whatever.

[GatewaySnayke]

I don't like the show because all of the dialogue plays as extremely contrived. Also, if a girl ever describes herself to you in this fashion: "I'm a Carrie" or "I'm a Samantha," then you should run and hide, of course. That's more likely to happen several years ago, though.

If by a few years ago you mean two days ago, then yes. I should probably work on not talking to idiots, but I get amused.

Who cares if one of them likes to have sex? They're adults. It doesn't necessitate a slutty girl standby or whatever.

If you're going to slut around, don't try to rationalize it by saying that when guys do it they are heroes. A girl is better off just admitting "I like to do it with a lot of guys" rather "I like to do it with a lot of guys and that's okay because guys do it, too."

[Arthur Dent]

The show was not intended to be some sort of guidebook to women behavior.

Yes. Clearly, the correct TV guidebook is The View.

[planet planet]

I don't like the show because all of the dialogue plays as extremely contrived. Also, if a girl ever describes herself to you in this fashion: "I'm a Carrie" or "I'm a Samantha," then you should run and hide, of course. That's more likely to happen several years ago, though.

If by a few years ago you mean two days ago, then yes. I should probably work on not talking to idiots, but I get amused.

Who cares if one of them likes to have sex? They're adults. It doesn't necessitate a slutty girl standby or whatever.

If you're going to slut around, don't try to rationalize it by saying that when guys do it they are heroes. A girl is better off just admitting "I like to do it with a lot of guys" rather "I like to do it with a lot of guys and that's okay because guys do it, too."

OK, I'll bite. How is it not a double standard, or as you crassly put it, a "slut standby"?