GDT:4/17 Pittsburgh @ St.Louis, 12.10pm CDT

Post by **planet planet** » April 17 07, 11:25 am

For two young starters, a converted reliever, and a reclaimation project, it sure doesn't inspire a lot of confidence on the mound when you're wondering if you'll get two runs worth of support. Complicate that with shoddy defense and I wouldn't be surprised if that in some way contributes to the control/command problems from trying to be too fine.

haltz · Post by **haltz** » April 17 07, 11:27 am

BW23 wrote:
planet pujolsian wrote:Sportsline has that scored as two earned runs against Wainwright. Is that right?
Probably. Both errors were on plays that wouldn't have resulted in an out, and neither led directly to a run just runners getting into scoring position. Plus, both scored on hits.

But I'm not sure how they rule on all of that.

It's if the inning was reconstructed would the runs have scored with errorless play. I'm hardly paying attention right now, to be honest, but that's the rule I believe.

Oh, and J-Rod should probably be called up soon ...

jagtrader · Post by **jagtrader** » April 17 07, 11:27 am

planet pujolsian wrote:For two young starters, a converted reliever, and a reclaimation project, it sure doesn't inspire a lot of confidence on the mound when you're wondering if you'll get two runs worth of support. Complicate that with shoddy defense and I wouldn't be surprised if that in some way contributes to the control/command problems from trying to be too fine.

Geez, they're 6-6 with Pujols hitting like Skip Schumaker. It's not that bad.

Cronos · Post by **Cronos** » April 17 07, 11:28 am

Everytime they DO hit one hard, it's right at somebody and it's a double play. Effing ridiculous.

businessmansspecial · Post by **businessmansspecial** » April 17 07, 11:28 am

Who made the flipping errors!!???

I_Bleed_Red · Post by **I_Bleed_Red** » April 17 07, 11:28 am

what was Taguchi doing on that play. Bad baserunning leads to a double play. AP smoked that ball though. Nice play be Jose Castillo

I_Bleed_Red · Post by **I_Bleed_Red** » April 17 07, 11:29 am

businessmansspecial wrote:Who made the flipping errors!!???

Preston over ran a ball it went past him
Eckstein through one over AP's head

jagtrader · Post by **jagtrader** » April 17 07, 11:29 am

I_Bleed_Red wrote:what was Taguchi doing on that play. Bad baserunning leads to a double play. AP smoked that ball though. Nice play be Jose Castillo

I thought Shannon said Taguchi was running on the play, but he's wrong 75 percent of the time.

businessmansspecial · Post by **businessmansspecial** » April 17 07, 11:30 am

I_Bleed_Red wrote:
businessmansspecial wrote:Who made the flipping errors!!???
Preston over ran a ball it went past him
Eckstein through one over AP's head

And they are earned runs??!!

Jocephus · Post by **Jocephus** » April 17 07, 11:31 am

businessmansspecial wrote:Who made the flipping errors!!???

wilson - went for a running throw but missed the pick up

eck - threw over pujols