2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

[Popeye_Card]

For as bad as Helsley has been this year, I feel like the return is about right

Bingo. Teams are smart enough now to pay based on the present, not on the past.

Unfortunately the Cardinals are not smart enough to have traded Helsley in the offseason like they should have.

[MrCrowesGarden]

I know we all love to pat ourselves on the back when we’re right, but literally everyone last offseason said to trade Helsley (and Fedde, but maybe not as loudly), and our front office was not smart enough to know it.

[Popeye_Card]

This was Girsch's Special Project - to devalue Helsley as much as possible. Why? Well that's his next Special Project.

[cardsfantx]

The Cardinals have already shipped out Ryan Helsley and Steven Matz, and there’s plenty of work for their front office to do between now and this afternoon’s deadline. They’ve talked Phil Maton with the Blue Jays (among other clubs), and USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reports that they’re also fielding offers on outfielder Lars Nootbaar, first baseman/outfielder Alec Burleson and utilityman Brendan Donovan (who’s reportedly been on the radar of the Dodgers and Yankees already — albeit before the Yankees acquired Ryan McMahon).

Two of the clubs showing interest in Burleson, Nootbaar and Donovan are the Phillies and Astros.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/ ... novan.html

[cardsfantx]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/ ... maton.html

Blue Jays Have Shown Interest In Phil Maton

The Blue Jays are looking to bolster their bullpen and the Cardinals have arms available. The Jays were previously connected to Ryan Helsley, though he has now been traded to the Mets. The Jays and Cards clubs have also discussed right-hander Phil Maton, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

[go birds]

phil maton for johnny king...who says no?

[dmarx114]

Giants got a better return for Tyler rogers than we got for got for helsey

Way to go Mo

Isn't Rogers the better and cheaper pitcher?

[cardsfantx]

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Giants got a better return for Tyler rogers than we got for got for helsey

Way to go Mo

Isn't Rogers the better and cheaper pitcher?

No, not better (he is cheaper)

You can’t compare middle reliever stats to closer stats as some are wanting to do

[cardsfantx]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/ ... maton.html

Blue Jays Have Shown Interest In Phil Maton

The Blue Jays are looking to bolster their bullpen and the Cardinals have arms available. The Jays were previously connected to Ryan Helsley, though he has now been traded to the Mets. The Jays and Cards clubs have also discussed right-hander Phil Maton, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

FYI maton didn’t travel with the team to SD, so obv will be moved somewhere today

[dmarx114]

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Giants got a better return for Tyler rogers than we got for got for helsey

Way to go Mo

Isn't Rogers the better and cheaper pitcher?

No, not better (he is cheaper)

You can’t compare middle reliever stats to closer stats as some are wanting to do

Why not?