2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Discuss all things Cardinals Baseball
Post Reply
Online
cardsfantx
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12217
Joined: November 6 10, 10:58 am

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by cardsfantx »

heyzeus wrote: ↑
July 21 25, 4:26 pm
booger71 wrote: ↑
July 21 25, 10:30 am
cardsfantx wrote: ↑
July 20 25, 9:11 pm
Mikolas and Gray would both be unwilling to waive their respective no-trade clauses
https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-lo ... gray-zach3
USA Today's Bob Nightengale recently dropped the bombshell report that indicated Mikolas and Gray would both be unwilling to waive their respective no-trade clauses if the Cardinals tried to deal them away from St. Louis.
"Cardinals starters Sonny Gray and Miles Mikolas still say they have no interest in leaving St. Louis, and would exercise their no-trade clauses to veto any potential deals," Nightengale wrote.
Outside of a couple of traveling little league teams, no one would be interested in signing Mikolas
This really is the funniest trade news nugget I’ve ever read. Miles will be out of major league baseball next year. The risk of the Cardinals finding a taker for him is 0.
He obv sucks and the FO knows it.

I just don’t understand why you don’t just cut him and let mathews take his spot and get his feet wet

User avatar
st.lewis11
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 15773
Joined: June 14 06, 10:17 pm
Location: Small southern IL town, 40 min from STL

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by st.lewis11 »

I wish we weren't so lacking of quality bats, because otherwise I'd consider Herrera as trade bait. Never was a fan of pushing for a position change, only for him to suck at D anywhere else. And I don't think it's good roster construction to have a "DH only" guy. I'm hoping the team doesn't give up on Herrera as a catcher, need him to work hard on drills/skills in the off-season. I just don't see any great D from Pages that he supposedly has, certainly not enough to make up for his paltry bat. We really need Herrera's value to be at catcher. But if Herrera's future is being a DH only, then I would at think about trading him.

dmarx114
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 25482
Joined: December 20 07, 2:45 pm

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by dmarx114 »

Down by 3.5 to the padres.

Playing the padres 4 times this week.

Anything but at least 3 out of 4 and we will be sellers.

jagtrader
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12658
Joined: June 5 06, 10:01 am

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by jagtrader »

If Helsley, Maton or Matz is on the team after the deadline, they should lock Mozeliak in the arch and make him watch every Mikolas pitch from the last three seasons on a loop until he’s 80.

User avatar
Richie Allen
Perennial All-Star
Posts: 7458
Joined: December 22 06, 1:06 am

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by Richie Allen »

Don't deal Maton.

User avatar
MrCrowesGarden
'Burb Boy
Posts: 24841
Joined: July 9 06, 11:33 am
Location: Out of the Loop

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by MrCrowesGarden »

jagtrader wrote: ↑
July 20 25, 12:40 pm
Gotta hand it to Mozeliak. A .500 team with four catchers, no hitters with an OPS over .800 and no starters with an ERA below 4 is his masterpiece. He’s going out on top.
Brendan Donovan is the Cardinals most valuable player by WAR. Only the Rockies have a less productive best player by WAR, and the Pirates are the only other team without a less productive position player

Online
cardsfantx
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12217
Joined: November 6 10, 10:58 am

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by cardsfantx »

Richie Allen wrote: ↑
July 22 25, 6:00 pm
Don't deal Maton.
Why not? He’s only on a 1 year deal; might as well get something for him if you can

You can always sign him back in the offseason if you really want

dmarx114
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 25482
Joined: December 20 07, 2:45 pm

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by dmarx114 »

Yeah, Maton is a lock to go if we sell.

Probably our second most valuable trade asset.

User avatar
GeddyWrox
Caught you a delicious bass
Posts: 14700
Joined: April 20 06, 8:43 pm
Location: Please use blue font for the sarcasm impaired.

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by GeddyWrox »

I imagine many of you have already seen this, but I thought I'd put it here. A nice rundown of our roster, with surplus value amounts per player, and a quick synopsis of their likelihood to be traded:

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2025/7/22/ ... value-isle

jagtrader
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12658
Joined: June 5 06, 10:01 am

Re: 2025 Trade Deadline Sepculation Thread ALL ABOARD

Post by jagtrader »

Maton has little trade value. They should still trade him. Maybe get another Matt Svanson type.

Post Reply