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Bad movie YouTube is fun.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuQvakRW08
Here’s a luke warm take: run Vin Diesel’s career back 10 times and 7 of them he’s one of those guys.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuQvakRW08
Here’s a luke warm take: run Vin Diesel’s career back 10 times and 7 of them he’s one of those guys.
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I know I'm late to the party, but I finally got around to watching The Banshees of Inisherin on HBO. I really enjoyed it. It's funny and philosophical with some great performances. Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson's In Burges chemistry was no fluke. I don't think The Banshees of Inisherin is quite that good, but the best picture nom was well deserved.
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Saw "Guardians Of The Galaxy vol. 3" at the weekend (Alamo Drafthouse, very nice).
All art is manipulation, I suppose, trying to get you to feel one way or another, but a large part of that is trying to hide the strings you're pulling. GotG painted the strings neon green and put up a sign next to them saying "this is how we're manipulating you!" Cute animals getting butchered, kids in peril...the rest of the movie was fine, I suppose, but I reacted strongly against those scenes.
All art is manipulation, I suppose, trying to get you to feel one way or another, but a large part of that is trying to hide the strings you're pulling. GotG painted the strings neon green and put up a sign next to them saying "this is how we're manipulating you!" Cute animals getting butchered, kids in peril...the rest of the movie was fine, I suppose, but I reacted strongly against those scenes.
I respect that he loves genre stuff and wants to make those less mainstream things. I can't imagine anyone else of his calibre taking a "Last Witch Hunter" size swing for the fences.BottenFieldofDreams wrote: ↑April 19 23, 4:09 pmHere’s a luke warm take: run Vin Diesel’s career back 10 times and 7 of them he’s one of those guys.
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So this is going to be a "hot take" but I promise I don't mean it that way. This is not just trying to be an edge lord or contrarian.
I watched Cape Fear last night. Scorcese has a voice as a director and I don't think I like it.
I love most of his movies, he gets incredible performances but I feel like the editing, coverage, and "symbolism" in his movies is....not good.The rat at the end of The Departed. Gimme Shelter during the chopper scene of Goodfellas. In Cape Fear there were multiple times the camera angles were absolutely wrong. Like, it's a shot/reverse shot but angled wrong so the positioning of the two characters was disconnected with their actual places. It starts to stick out because when you realize a three cut of Goodfellas and call it The Irishman, you have to wonder. He's clearly doing something but his behind the camera stuff bugs me.
I'm curious if anyone else has felt this way about him.
I watched Cape Fear last night. Scorcese has a voice as a director and I don't think I like it.
I love most of his movies, he gets incredible performances but I feel like the editing, coverage, and "symbolism" in his movies is....not good.The rat at the end of The Departed. Gimme Shelter during the chopper scene of Goodfellas. In Cape Fear there were multiple times the camera angles were absolutely wrong. Like, it's a shot/reverse shot but angled wrong so the positioning of the two characters was disconnected with their actual places. It starts to stick out because when you realize a three cut of Goodfellas and call it The Irishman, you have to wonder. He's clearly doing something but his behind the camera stuff bugs me.
I'm curious if anyone else has felt this way about him.
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When I left Nike about a year ago I would have had to work 865 years to equal the value generated by the CEO in just one (a figure trending toward him year by year, dramatically). If he was doing anything like Air I might be able to conceptualize this. Fun movie. For real, I enjoyed it.
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Spiderverse 2 is the best theater experience I've had since Fury Road.
Perhaps it's because I didn't see the first in the theater, though I liked it quite a bit. This was incredible. The set pieces make it almost like Snow White or something, but they're gigantic and trippy and impossibly creative.
Best Marvel movie by an ocean, at least since this era began. Even with inevitable middle chapter shortcomings. Like a hilarious laser light show that successfully and not cheaply creates stakes despite it all. Lord and Miller rule.
And I was wearing a Burger King Spiderverse crown the whole time with my one kid that likes fun and isn't too cool for Dad.
Perhaps it's because I didn't see the first in the theater, though I liked it quite a bit. This was incredible. The set pieces make it almost like Snow White or something, but they're gigantic and trippy and impossibly creative.
Best Marvel movie by an ocean, at least since this era began. Even with inevitable middle chapter shortcomings. Like a hilarious laser light show that successfully and not cheaply creates stakes despite it all. Lord and Miller rule.
And I was wearing a Burger King Spiderverse crown the whole time with my one kid that likes fun and isn't too cool for Dad.
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I'll say this. I had to swallow my concerns about Wolf of Wall Street glorifying douchebaggery, because I wasn't appreciating the subtleties of the condemnation: but I also have to watch that rat run across that goddam railing such that only a character like Ralph Wiggum could appropriately call it out for hamfistedness (and he did).vinsanity wrote: ↑May 30 23, 8:29 amSo this is going to be a "hot take" but I promise I don't mean it that way. This is not just trying to be an edge lord or contrarian.
I watched Cape Fear last night. Scorcese has a voice as a director and I don't think I like it.
I love most of his movies, he gets incredible performances but I feel like the editing, coverage, and "symbolism" in his movies is....not good.The rat at the end of The Departed. Gimme Shelter during the chopper scene of Goodfellas. In Cape Fear there were multiple times the camera angles were absolutely wrong. Like, it's a shot/reverse shot but angled wrong so the positioning of the two characters was disconnected with their actual places. It starts to stick out because when you realize a three cut of Goodfellas and call it The Irishman, you have to wonder. He's clearly doing something but his behind the camera stuff bugs me.
I'm curious if anyone else has felt this way about him.
I also resent, or used to, Jonah Hill's Oscar nom for his SNL character in WoWS if only because John Goodman has never gotten one--and any of his amazing Coen Bros roles would do.
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I've got big weird holes in my Scorsese list. I've seen Taxi Driver. I've somehow not seen Raging Bull. I've seen everything after that up through Casino, and then nothing afterward except The Departed.
I think the camera angles are just an acquired taste probably, and I'm certain he intends them to be wrong because he definitely knows what's "right." How well that works for people probably varies. I will say I'm not a big Goodfellas fan. He films that and some other things (Cape Fear, I think maybe The Departed) almost the way other people shoot very broad comedies. Lots of wide angles and whip-pans and closeups and it's not really my thing. Age of Innocence and others are nothing like that, so he seems pretty deliberate about when he goes that route.
I love Taxi Driver, and After Hours. Liked Last Temptation of Christ a lot, which I recall having it's own distinct vibe.
Been meaning to get to a lot of his later stuff. Really want to see Gangs of New York finally, and Silence. Killers of the Flower Moon when that comes out.
I think the camera angles are just an acquired taste probably, and I'm certain he intends them to be wrong because he definitely knows what's "right." How well that works for people probably varies. I will say I'm not a big Goodfellas fan. He films that and some other things (Cape Fear, I think maybe The Departed) almost the way other people shoot very broad comedies. Lots of wide angles and whip-pans and closeups and it's not really my thing. Age of Innocence and others are nothing like that, so he seems pretty deliberate about when he goes that route.
I love Taxi Driver, and After Hours. Liked Last Temptation of Christ a lot, which I recall having it's own distinct vibe.
Been meaning to get to a lot of his later stuff. Really want to see Gangs of New York finally, and Silence. Killers of the Flower Moon when that comes out.
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The master of mise en scene. The framing goat himself.ghostrunner wrote: ↑June 7 23, 9:02 amI think the camera angles are just an acquired taste probably, and I'm certain he intends them to be wrong because he definitely knows what's "right." How well that works for people probably varies. I will say I'm not a big Goodfellas fan. He films that and some other things (Cape Fear, I think maybe The Departed) almost the way other people shoot very broad comedies. Lots of wide angles and whip-pans and closeups and it's not really my thing. Age of Innocence and others are nothing like that, so he seems pretty deliberate about when he goes that route.
I, too, have weird Scorcese holes despite being a fan. Never seen Raging Bull and still haven't seen The Irishman despite having Netflix. I just can't get excited for the deaging/casting nonsense.
Very, very excited for Killers of the Flower Moon. I was familiar (wikipedia-level familiarity) with the story of the Osage oil rights and string of marriage murders because of them, so when I saw he was doing the movie, I was immediately in. He says he's going to tell another Jesus story after this, which should be excellent.
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The guy is a gift to me no matter what, because he won't shut up about movies and it's great. I wish the Coens or Spielberg wanted to talk that much. Also does a ton of actual work in support of other movies and cinematic history in general. Producing, restoring, etc... There's like 4 different shows/documentaries of him just talking about movies I've seen clips of but meaning to watch in full. He'll be missed when he's gone.


