its not a troll job by me. i saw it andy richters twitter. i found it interesting. you are free to post any thread you see that highlights your perspective or something you find interesting. but thank you for attacking my character.
Now who’s getting triggered?
no real response so you have nothing.
you feel like you are being attacked but i dont feel welcome in these covid threads. thanks.
As much abuse as I’ve had to withstand because I’ve actually shared my opinion, which doesn’t conform w/ the vast majority of this board, and after one comment from me and you don’t feel welcome in these threads?
So I shouldn’t be concerned that pretty much every post about people who don’t agree w/ how they are going about this vaccine is labeled as a Trumper, or in your case unemployed crazy people who don’t have a clue?
your constant victimhood claims (which is a choice you've made) make me uncomfortable and reminds me how dumb this country is that a virus became political and conspiracy driven. i'll leave you to it.
How dare I have a different opinion and express my concerns w/ something. I’m sorry that my “victimhood” makes you uncomfortable. It really sucks because I’ve been a member of this board for 15 years, but my interest in remaining a member of this board is waning by the day.
I’ve seen others attacked for their views, and I may have even partaken in what’s driven some long time board members away, so I have to recognize that I was part of the problem here. But it’s sure different when it happens to you.
And sneaking in a way to call me “dumb” because I don’t happen to agree with you was a nice parting gift.
its not a troll job by me. i saw it andy richters twitter. i found it interesting. you are free to post any thread you see that highlights your perspective or something you find interesting. but thank you for attacking my character.
Now who’s getting triggered?
no real response so you have nothing.
you feel like you are being attacked but i dont feel welcome in these covid threads. thanks.
As much abuse as I’ve had to withstand because I’ve actually shared my opinion, which doesn’t conform w/ the vast majority of this board, and after one comment from me and you don’t feel welcome in these threads?
So I shouldn’t be concerned that pretty much every post about people who don’t agree w/ how they are going about this vaccine is labeled as a Trumper, or in your case unemployed crazy people who don’t have a clue?
your constant victimhood claims (which is a choice you've made) make me uncomfortable and reminds me how dumb this country is that a virus became political and conspiracy driven. i'll leave you to it.
How dare I have a different opinion and express my concerns w/ something. I’m sorry that my “victimhood” makes you uncomfortable. It really sucks because I’ve been a member of this board for 15 years, but my interest in remaining a member of this board is waning by the day.
I’ve seen others attacked for their views, and I may have even partaken in what’s driven some long time board members away, so I have to recognize that I was part of the problem here. But it’s sure different when it happens to you.
And sneaking in a way to call me “dumb” because I don’t happen to agree with you was a nice parting gift.
i never said you had to stop. do whatever you the f you want. i told you why i don't necessarily feel comfortable commenting in here and now you lash out at me. sound familiar? and as an aside, people take this forum way too seriously. using this place of ~30 or so people as their barometer for any opposite side of their own viewpoint.
as others have said, i'm actually ok with *your* perspective. you likely are a healthy person whose natural risk is low. i think you will be wrong ultimately but whatever, i'm not losing sleep over this. however, the way you throw yourself towards the uniformed narrative is disappointing and a little surprising. but to each his own. and again you read too much into text. i never called you dumb, i called the situation dumb but since you're adopting the cornered animal approach its understandable why you would take it that way.
its not a troll job by me. i saw it andy richters twitter. i found it interesting. you are free to post any thread you see that highlights your perspective or something you find interesting. but thank you for attacking my character.
Now who’s getting triggered?
no real response so you have nothing.
you feel like you are being attacked but i dont feel welcome in these covid threads. thanks.
As much abuse as I’ve had to withstand because I’ve actually shared my opinion, which doesn’t conform w/ the vast majority of this board, and after one comment from me and you don’t feel welcome in these threads?
So I shouldn’t be concerned that pretty much every post about people who don’t agree w/ how they are going about this vaccine is labeled as a Trumper, or in your case unemployed crazy people who don’t have a clue?
your constant victimhood claims (which is a choice you've made) make me uncomfortable and reminds me how dumb this country is that a virus became political and conspiracy driven. i'll leave you to it.
How dare I have a different opinion and express my concerns w/ something. I’m sorry that my “victimhood” makes you uncomfortable. It really sucks because I’ve been a member of this board for 15 years, but my interest in remaining a member of this board is waning by the day.
I’ve seen others attacked for their views, and I may have even partaken in what’s driven some long time board members away, so I have to recognize that I was part of the problem here. But it’s sure different when it happens to you.
And sneaking in a way to call me “dumb” because I don’t happen to agree with you was a nice parting gift.
i never said you had to stop. do whatever you the f you want. i told you why i don't necessarily feel comfortable commenting in here and now you lash out at me. sound familiar? and as an aside, people take this forum way too seriously. using this place of ~30 or so people as their barometer for any opposite side of their own viewpoint.
as others have said, i'm actually ok with *your* perspective. you likely are a healthy person whose natural risk is low. i think you will be wrong ultimately but whatever, i'm not losing sleep over this. however, the way you throw yourself towards the uniformed narrative is disappointing and a little surprising. but to each his own. and again you read too much into text. i never called you dumb, i called the situation dumb but since you're adopting the cornered animal approach its understandable why you would take it that way.
I wish it was just 30 or so people on this board that had this opposing viewpoint, but you and I both know that’s not the case. There’s true hated in full display of the unvaccinated. Hell, you have the president himself saying “this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated” now, do you really think that in anyway whatsoever is uniting people in this country?
And yes, this topic has gotten heated, and I do feel cornered sometimes as myself and literally only a couple others hold this opinion….and while most have been respectful for the most part others have not.
Some excerpts below. Recommend reading the whole article.
The Delta outbreak is going to get much worse, warns Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist who leads the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "The number of intensive-care beds needed could be higher than any time we've seen," he says. He adds that his team's analysis shows that almost every single one of the 100 million unvaccinated Americans who hasn't had COVID-19 yet will likely get it in the coming months, short of taking the sort of strong isolation and masking precautions that seem unlikely in the vaccine-hesitant population.
The variant is so contagious that it's set to smash through every previous prediction of how soon the U.S. might reach herd immunity. "We've failed to shut this down as we have other pandemics," says Jonathan Eisen, a biologist at the University of California, Davis, who studies how pathogens evolve. "It may be around forevermore, leaving us continually trying to figure out what to do next."
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It's too soon to say whether Lambda will turn out to be the next big, bad thing that COVID-19 unleashes on us. But it's a good time to wonder: Just how destructive can these variants get? Will future variants expand their attack from the lungs to the brain, the heart and other organs? Will they take a page from HIV and trick people into thinking they've recovered, only to make them sick later? Is there a Doomsday variant out there that shrugs off vaccines, spreads like wildfire and leaves more of its victims much sicker than anything we've yet seen?
The odds are not high that we will see such a triple threat, but experts can't rule it out. Delta has already shown how much worse things can get. Its extreme contagiousness, with room to run freely through the tens of millions of Americans who haven't been vaccinated and millions more who have no access to vaccines in developing countries, has good odds of turning into something even more troublesome. "The next variant," says Osterholm, "could be Delta on steroids."
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Like the flu, COVID-19 is probably going to be with us for the foreseeable future. But a big pickup in vaccination rates would at least put the age of the most dangerous variants behind us. At that point, says Green, we can focus on occasional new vaccines or booster shots that make the virus a relatively tame threat.
"I don't think eradication is on the table," she says. "But I think we could come up with something that's better than what we have now for the flu."
On the other hand, notes Green, the flu kills as many as 60,000 people a year. If COVID-19 keeps mutating away from vaccine effectiveness and natural immunity, and a large portion of the population continues to neglect vaccinations, then we'll indeed end up permanently haunted by the virus.
In that case, we'd be lucky if COVID-19 "only" kills tens of thousands every year. Thanks to the ongoing threats of variants, we might be in for a lot worse.
