2016 MLB Draft Talk

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jack76 wrote:
phins wrote:I'd say the Cards are finished signing anyone of significance now.

The Cards can spend up to $277,250 on any pick made after the top-10 rounds ($177,250 to get to the 5% max overage to avoid a draft pick penalty plus the 100k you can spend after the top-10 rounds and not impact your bonus pool).

Will that sign either Whalen or Ydens? Doubtful. The other HS guys aren't really prospects and I would suspect that be enough money to sign any of them if they decided to throw that money at them at the deadline.
Maybe I'm reading the draft tracker wrong over on viva el birdos, but it looks like we have closer to 500K over slot money to spend. If that is the case, who would you pursue left on the list? Whalen? Ydens? Murders? Do you think we could get 2 of the 3?

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis-ca ... gs-tracker
That's taking into account the 5% taxed overage that MLB allows before you begin forfeiting draft picks.

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Swirls wrote:
jack76 wrote:
phins wrote:I'd say the Cards are finished signing anyone of significance now.

The Cards can spend up to $277,250 on any pick made after the top-10 rounds ($177,250 to get to the 5% max overage to avoid a draft pick penalty plus the 100k you can spend after the top-10 rounds and not impact your bonus pool).

Will that sign either Whalen or Ydens? Doubtful. The other HS guys aren't really prospects and I would suspect that be enough money to sign any of them if they decided to throw that money at them at the deadline.
Maybe I'm reading the draft tracker wrong over on viva el birdos, but it looks like we have closer to 500K over slot money to spend. If that is the case, who would you pursue left on the list? Whalen? Ydens? Murders? Do you think we could get 2 of the 3?

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis-ca ... gs-tracker
That's taking into account the 5% taxed overage that MLB allows before you begin forfeiting draft picks.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think we have more money than phins thinks we do, so we can potentially sign more impactful prospects.

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jack76 wrote:
Swirls wrote:
jack76 wrote:
phins wrote:I'd say the Cards are finished signing anyone of significance now.

The Cards can spend up to $277,250 on any pick made after the top-10 rounds ($177,250 to get to the 5% max overage to avoid a draft pick penalty plus the 100k you can spend after the top-10 rounds and not impact your bonus pool).

Will that sign either Whalen or Ydens? Doubtful. The other HS guys aren't really prospects and I would suspect that be enough money to sign any of them if they decided to throw that money at them at the deadline.
Maybe I'm reading the draft tracker wrong over on viva el birdos, but it looks like we have closer to 500K over slot money to spend. If that is the case, who would you pursue left on the list? Whalen? Ydens? Murders? Do you think we could get 2 of the 3?

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis-ca ... gs-tracker
That's taking into account the 5% taxed overage that MLB allows before you begin forfeiting draft picks.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think we have more money than phins thinks we do, so we can potentially sign more impactful prospects.
If these reported bonuses are correct, rather than what Baseball America shows, then yes, we'd have enough to sign one of them probably. Whalen is much more likely than Ydens. Murders is a nice college prospect and should go to school.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
phins wrote:I'd say the Cards are finished signing anyone of significance now.

The Cards can spend up to $277,250 on any pick made after the top-10 rounds ($177,250 to get to the 5% max overage to avoid a draft pick penalty plus the 100k you can spend after the top-10 rounds and not impact your bonus pool).

Will that sign either Whalen or Ydens? Doubtful. The other HS guys aren't really prospects and I would suspect that be enough money to sign any of them if they decided to throw that money at them at the deadline.
I thought I saw Cabbiness was a decent HS prospect but I could be mistaken.
Quite honestly, I know very little about him and he has been considered a college guy so I didn't put any time into him.

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phins wrote:
MrCrowesGarden wrote:
phins wrote:I'd say the Cards are finished signing anyone of significance now.

The Cards can spend up to $277,250 on any pick made after the top-10 rounds ($177,250 to get to the 5% max overage to avoid a draft pick penalty plus the 100k you can spend after the top-10 rounds and not impact your bonus pool).

Will that sign either Whalen or Ydens? Doubtful. The other HS guys aren't really prospects and I would suspect that be enough money to sign any of them if they decided to throw that money at them at the deadline.
I thought I saw Cabbiness was a decent HS prospect but I could be mistaken.
Quite honestly, I know very little about him and he has been considered a college guy so I didn't put any time into him.
No worries. From what I know he's a super athletic type but is also a two sport guy.

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I saw Murders play a year ago....was very impressed.

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Whalen signs. That should close the door on Murders and Ydens.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:Whalen signs. That should close the door on Murders and Ydens.
That's good news. Quite honestly, our draft in the teens was excellent as well.

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Cheddar Tom wrote:I saw Murders play a year ago....was very impressed.
A lot of tools, but never really dominated in high school. Was 2nd team All-State on a very good team. For some reason, Missouri State didn't really recruit him. Maybe because he committed to Texas Tech so early in his career, but that was always a mystery to me. He doesn't really have a family connection to Texas, but maybe he just loved Lubbock, Texas. (Said no one ever)

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Brady Whalen is an athletic kid. He's long at 6-4, has a loose frame with athleticism. Skinny, at what looks like 180 right now. He's really got smooth feet and hands. I think he'll probably grow into a 3B, but there is a shot to stay at SS longterm.

Switch hitter. Great feel for hitting and has the bat speed to hit velocity. Wiry with developing power. Great swing plane. Tools aren't loud, but the ceiling is of a starting SS on a good club. Athleticism gives options on the diamond, which is something I love. Good arm, can play just about anywhere if SS doesn't work and the bat will play anywhere but 1B/LF.

To get BOTH Killichowski and Whalen to sign is one of those things that means the Cards played their hand perfectly. Sign the Spartanburg Juco and you have drafted at least seven players with major league upside in this draft, and maybe closer to ten. Add to that players always emerge for the Cards and you can see the reason for the optimism with this draft.

This has kind of gotten the juices flowing for a long draft recap post. To the lab!

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