2015-16 NBA Season
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That was some big boy stuff from LeBron and Kyrie. That's the kind of thing everyone forgets about if you lose the series but writes your myth if you win.
Steph still getting that weird press treatment where, unlike LeBron and every other top dog in post-Jordan NBA history, when he disappears in a big game, no one gives him any [expletive].
That's the thing about being 6'2 and 150 pounds though. You can't just bully a game like LeBron did last night. That was just sheer will and a jumper that was falling consistently for the first time in a while. He played every position, guarded everyone and opened up so much space for Kyrie to operate. We'll see if he can do it against Draymond at home. Last night was exactly why in those pointless hypothetical arguments that the NBA is so good at fostering, I still take LeBron over Steph if I'm starting a team or picking MVP. Steph is amazing but he's just not a world eater and sometimes when plan A and B fails, you need a world eater. If Steph doesn't have Klay to pick up the shooting slack on his off nights and Draymond to be the bully, he's the new Iverson. Instead he's a champion.
Steph still getting that weird press treatment where, unlike LeBron and every other top dog in post-Jordan NBA history, when he disappears in a big game, no one gives him any [expletive].
That's the thing about being 6'2 and 150 pounds though. You can't just bully a game like LeBron did last night. That was just sheer will and a jumper that was falling consistently for the first time in a while. He played every position, guarded everyone and opened up so much space for Kyrie to operate. We'll see if he can do it against Draymond at home. Last night was exactly why in those pointless hypothetical arguments that the NBA is so good at fostering, I still take LeBron over Steph if I'm starting a team or picking MVP. Steph is amazing but he's just not a world eater and sometimes when plan A and B fails, you need a world eater. If Steph doesn't have Klay to pick up the shooting slack on his off nights and Draymond to be the bully, he's the new Iverson. Instead he's a champion.
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Draymond is right. Lebron is a [expletive]. He's been a non-factor in their 3 losses. It's not a surprise that he had a good game while Draymond was out. Lebron does bully games. His dominance now is mostly putting his shoulder down and driving to the basket to score or flop. Steph has had bad games, but he can't out-physical anyone, although LBJ can't even score on him at all. That's the thing about the Warriors, though. They're a team. He's the leader of the team and they win fairly easily even when the other team defends him in double and triples. They know how to share the ball and play great team defense. Lebron is still searching for his first title where he's "the man". As long as he keeps playing GM and picking bad complementary parts, he'll never win. And that's fine by me.
If Steph is Iverson, then Lebron is someone like Worthy. Or worse.
If Steph is Iverson, then Lebron is someone like Worthy. Or worse.
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Third.BW23 wrote:Lebron is still searching for his first title where he's "the man".
This is the worst basketball analysis I've ever read.BW23 wrote: Lebron is someone like Worthy. Or worse.
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If Steph stabbed LeBron's puppy to death, we'd crucify LeBron's pet ownership and praise Steph's swordsmanship.
Five games, not one exciting finish. Good game last night, and maybe I shouldn't complain about the last two minutes not taking 45 minutes with timeouts and replays, but it would be nice to see.
Five games, not one exciting finish. Good game last night, and maybe I shouldn't complain about the last two minutes not taking 45 minutes with timeouts and replays, but it would be nice to see.
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MrSaigon
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28, 12 and 8 for LeBron this series. 35, 13 and 9 last year. Not terribly [expletive] -y. And give him some credit for getting Draymond out for Game 5 by acting just like Draymond.
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Nice try, but Lebron wasn't the man in Miami. Ever. It wasn't his team, it was Wade's. It wasn't him with the ball in crunch time, it was Wade's. Crap, Lebron doesn't want the ball in crunch time now. He'd rather take the ball out than take a critical shot.thrill wrote:Third.BW23 wrote:Lebron is still searching for his first title where he's "the man".This is the worst basketball analysis I've ever read.BW23 wrote: Lebron is someone like Worthy. Or worse.
The Worthy/Lebron comp was to show how ridiculous your Steph/Iverson comp was. The only thing remotely similar about Iverson and Steph are that both are shorter and could dribble. Nothing else about their games are remotely similar, in terms of how they play, how they approach, how they prepare, their philosophy. Nothing.
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The Steph-Iverson comp could be Steph-Any great undersized player. The point being that you don't build dynasties around players like that without having an incredibly deep, well-constructed team.
Your LeBron thoughts remain absurd. I can only assume you don't actually watch basketball but are an avid Skip Bayless fan.
Your LeBron thoughts remain absurd. I can only assume you don't actually watch basketball but are an avid Skip Bayless fan.
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When LeBron passes to Wade he's not being The Man. When Steph passes it's because he knows that bball is a team game and trust falls build champions.
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Oh, so Steph is a comp to any "great" undersized player? Seriously? And my thoughts are absurd. My Lebron/Worthy pick was to show just how ridiculous comparing Steph to Iverson was, but since you're doubled down and said "any", I'm sorry I wasted my time. Ridiculous.thrill wrote:The Steph-Iverson comp could Steph-Any great undersized player. The point being that you don't build dynasties around players like that without having an incredibly deep, well-constructed team.
Your LeBron thoughts remain absurd. I can only assume you don't actually watch basketball but are an avid Skip Bayless fan.
Even Skip Bayless wouldn't say something that stupid.
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Steph has never been mentioned as the best player to ever play. I realize it's generational, but many think LBJ is. I know you're still upset at losing to them, but c'mon.MrSaigon wrote:When LeBron passes to Wade he's not being The Man. When Steph passes it's because he knows that bball is a team game and trust falls build champions.
