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[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Haven't seen the movie, but I was talking to my neighbor (big fan of comics/DC) yesterday. When I mentioned how lopsided the batman vs superman fight would be, and how I thought it was a terrible idea, he kind of went on to talk about how DC always portrayed batman as more of an idea person than physical person and superman was always the physical presence. In that regards, it makes a little more sense. Man of Steel certainly didn't portray Superman to be short on the mental side of the stick and I don't pretend to know much about the backgrounds.

So, all that said, it was interesting to hear why he was eager to see it despite what I considered an illogical premise. As usual, the more you know, the more it makes sense.

[BW23]

what a buzzkill

Um, I thought Tyson was smart, Bat's are not blind. They actually have pretty good eyesight. But use echolocation to find food at night.

I'd guess this has more to do with him being in the movie than anything else.

[TheoSqua]

[SHOW]

The reason that batman and superman fought seems to be really lacking for me. It just didn't seem very convincing that Superman would kill someone because his mother was kidnapped. It was also weird how that plot sort of undermined the first hour of the film. If all Luthor needed was to kidnap Superman's mommy to get him to do his bidding why bother with kryptonite and bombs and leading on Batman. And Luthor's plotting seemed so simple and boring for such a compelling villan. The most frustrating part is all the elements for a compelling reason were already in the film.

The US Senate is investigating Superman and questioning his rogue status and how they should handle a superhuman being living in their country. Senator June Finch is running hearings on how to handle Superman and invites him to speak to them. After a debate scene and some inner monologue that compels to Superman's inner goodness and patriotism growing up in America, superman agrees to have a military committee govern his actions.
Meanwhile batman is investigating a smuggling ring at the Gotham docks and intercepts an unusual container of rocks while apprehending the criminals. He takes it back to his cave for investigating.

It's revealed that Lex Luthor is trying to smuggle Kryptonite into Metropolis and that he is also controlling Sentator Finch. You can have her be evil or have him controlling her son. Either way it makes more sense for a character like Luthor to be indirectly meddling with Superman. Luthor fabricates a murder scene from batman in Gotham and sets up a meeting with Perry White and persuades him to run news articles that negatively portrays Batman and links him to the murders.
Keep the batman unease with Superman and his internal anger that Superman is a being not to be trusted. His and Alfred's analysis of the rocks reveal that it's alien in nature and that it could be used as a weapon against Superman. Batman links the shipment to Luthor and still has the scene where he steals their system data. In the scene batman and superman both discern their alter egos and batman is turned off by a threat from superman and decides to weaponize his kryptonite, just in case. Wonder Woman still steals his data first.
Luthor detects Batman's intrusion and, worried that his control of the US Sentate will be found out, convinces Finch to have Superman capture Batman. Finch gives Superman the mission and compels him to do his patriotic duty. The combination of trying to appease humanity, his concerns with Batman being a murderous rogue vigilante, and his bad run in with Wayne convinces him this is a good idea.

Batman gets his data back from Wonder Woman and finds out about the senate corruption and Luthor's attempts to reanimate the dead Kryptonians. Because of his negative opinion of Superman he assumes that he is involved with the corruption with the goal of taking over the world and decides he has to defeat Superman.
Luthor reanimates Zod and releases him. Lane sees monster, figures out Luthor's involvement with sentate and anti-batman articles and that it was a setup by Luthor to convince Superman to defeat Batman so he could obtain the Kryptonite. Runs to find Superman via chopper.
Fight scene happens. Batman is about to kill Superman. Lane interrupts and convinces Batman that Superman wasn't involved and that he's needed to defeat monster. Wonder woman randomly appears.

Everyone leaves thinking it was a much better movie.

[TheoSqua]

Also if you had 10 pictures, 5 of the monster in Batman v Superman and 5 of the Cave Troll in Lord of the Rings. I bet you'd have no idea which is which.

[Jocephus]

oh and

[SHOW]

gotham and metropolis being so close together, its like palin saying she can she russia from her house. it was odd.

[BW23]

Affleck may be my favorite Bruce Wayne so far. Keaton is probably second. Bale is my favorite Batman.

I came out of the movie really liking it. If I were to sit back and think about many of the problems of the film, more and more pop up. But it's a great popcorn fest. Just don't think too hard about it.

[MrSaigon]

Creed is good. Do you think maybe the bad guy could have done some jogging or something? The guy is [expletive] [expletive] (Hitch Bits) from Fight Club.

[Famous Mortimer]

oh and

[SHOW]

gotham and metropolis being so close together, its like palin saying she can she russia from her house. it was odd.

Feels weird spoilering this, but

[SHOW]

Metropolis is New York and Gotham is Boston, roughly speaking

(or so comics fandom has indicated to me).

Never mind Batman v Superman, though, because I just watched The Circuit. Every low-rent, poor-acting guy from martial arts movies in one place, a plot (about an underground fight league) absolutely chock full of holes, stupid to the nth degree. But I loved it.

What's Up, Hideous Sun Demon?
A bunch of LA comedians of the early 80s (including Jay Leno) dub over an independent monster movie from 1958. Packed with jokes, and nicely short (only just over 70 minutes). Apparently, the mockery was done with the original director / star's approval, and it's a lot of fun.

[Jocephus]

oh and

[SHOW]

gotham and metropolis being so close together, its like palin saying she can she russia from her house. it was odd.

Feels weird spoilering this, but

[SHOW]

Metropolis is New York and Gotham is Boston, roughly speaking

(or so comics fandom has indicated to me).

not as close as portrayed in film

[MrSaigon]

Want to echo positive takes on Vacation. Funny stuff.