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[Jocephus]

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[thrill]

It's not an indictment of a moral failing. It's starting a conversation about examining our natural human relationship with violence.

I have to say it doesn't work for me either. Which is fine. Though I feel like any halfway contemplative person should come to those thoughts on their own, whether it's Star Wars, the Godfather, or Kill Bill. If in fact that's what QT seeks to do, it's as if he can't get over this revelation and apparently wants to keep pushing that gospel, like he's the eternal college student who just got exposed to existentialism. It's not so much whether it's hard to understand, but whether it's something even worth pondering. For me it isn't. It's similar to a Christian wanting to have a conversation and challenge me on my lack of faith. I'm way past that point by now, to the extent I don't even think about it. I'm on to other questions. So I guess my internal response to it is similar to Mormons or Witnesses at my front door.

Though I still suspect that QT is 65% a kid in a candy store when it comes to movie violence.

I don't think Quentin Tarantino is any kind of significant social thinker. I think he's an incredible filmmaker. I think that his college freshmen opinions on the world are only digestible through film kind of like how you would never eat a coffee bean raw, but if you roast it, grind it and soak it in very hot water it is transformed into something great.


I want to clarify that I have no issues with people not liking the movie or thinking it's too violent. Or thinking he's not as great as I do. I think that's probably healthy.

I just started in this thread pointing out how one person's condemnation of gratuitous violence while simultaneously praising Basterds and Django and posting in another thread about how he wants someone raped in prison as a means of delivering justice was contradictory and ill considered.

[ghostrunner]

It's not an indictment of a moral failing. It's starting a conversation about examining our natural human relationship with violence.

I have to say it doesn't work for me either. Which is fine. Though I feel like any halfway contemplative person should come to those thoughts on their own, whether it's Star Wars, the Godfather, or Kill Bill. If in fact that's what QT seeks to do, it's as if he can't get over this revelation and apparently wants to keep pushing that gospel, like he's the eternal college student who just got exposed to existentialism. It's not so much whether it's hard to understand, but whether it's something even worth pondering. For me it isn't. It's similar to a Christian wanting to have a conversation and challenge me on my lack of faith. I'm way past that point by now, to the extent I don't even think about it. I'm on to other questions. So I guess my internal response to it is similar to Mormons or Witnesses at my front door.

Though I still suspect that QT is 65% a kid in a candy store when it comes to movie violence.

I don't think Quentin Tarantino is any kind of significant social thinker. I think he's an incredible filmmaker. I think that his college freshmen opinions on the world are only digestible through film kind of like how you would never eat a coffee bean raw, but if you roast it, grind it and soak it in very hot water it is transformed into something great.


I want to clarify that I have no issues with people not liking the movie or thinking it's too violent. Or thinking he's not as great as I do. I think that's probably healthy.

I just started in this thread pointing out how one person's condemnation of gratuitous violence while simultaneously praising Basterds and Django and posting in another thread about how he wants someone raped in prison as a means of delivering justice was contradictory and ill considered.

No argument there

[Jocephus]

[MrCrowesGarden]

A Utah film student re-cut Inside Out to basically make it only "Out"... so no scenes with the emotions. It's still pretty good.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ente ... /78239544/

[The Third Man]

Basterds was relatively guilt-free fun.

That, to me, is a very strange characterization of the film. Basterds is about the hypocrisy of bloodlust and how arbitrarily the lines are drawn between just and unjust violence, and how propaganda distorts morality. The climax of the film has the audience of a movie premiere (which itself features scenes of violence against "our" side) being slaughtered in the aisles. It's essentially suggestive of a cinematic deathwish. The villain of the film is its smartest, most charismatic, most commanding character. The secondary protagonist and avatar of American-ness is a crude, vicious buffoon. The only truly decent lead is Shoshanna, who is un-coincidentally its most vulnerable character and the only one who acts independent of state loyalties. Its surface may be pure pulp with a wicked streak of humor, but it's all in service of a potent and cogent political outlook.

[33anda3rd]

I just started in this thread pointing out how one person's condemnation of gratuitous violence while simultaneously praising Basterds and Django and posting in another thread about how he wants someone raped in prison as a means of delivering justice was contradictory and ill considered.

I didn't really like Django, not sure where that's coming from, and any praise I heaped on Basterds was mostly over a scene or two, like the creepy one between Waltz and Laurent at the fancy restaurant, which involved no physical violence. I also don't think that it's necessarily contradictory to question seemingly senseless violence that props up gun culture, while verbalizing that I hope real Americans using gun culture to create an act of terrorism get a little bit of the ol in-out/in-out in the slammer. It's the same: a dislike for gun violence.

[Arthur Dent]

Anti gun violence but pro sexual violence?

[33anda3rd]

Pro-gun nuts taking a beating.

They are mouth-breathing morons who try to prop themselves up on the constitution, and their actions and insistence on their rights means we have guns and have senseless murders. So a bunch of good ol boy terrorists marching into a federal building with guns can, so far as I'm concerned, go get quite literally f-ed.

[Schlich]

So... movies.

The Big Short was really good.