movies

[stlouie_lipp]

Saw Hateful 8 in the 70mm Roadshow, and I say this as a Tarantino fan of 20+ years: it's hot garbage. The first QT movie I've actively disliked. There's no point. It's a lot of n-word, n-word, b***h, b***h, people talking about how they're going to shoot people and shooting people, and really has no overriding theme or anything that makes sitting through 3 hours of it worth the price of admission--which for the roadshow was darn near $20. Looks great in 70mm (save the however many minutes we didn't see b/c we watched the film burn up in the gate onscreen, leading to an early 20-minute intermission and a changeover to the digital projection rather than the 70mm for the last 2 hours), sounds great, the music is great, but other than that it stinks.

I've heard this from two people now and I'm not surprised. Looked pretty bad.

[The Third Man]

Don't listen to these people.

To say that Hateful Eight is misanthropic and, well, hateful, is fair (but [expletive] it, I'm on its wavelength). To say that it's pointless or without theme is not. Its primary theme was examined - albeit to greater effect - in Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained as well: that the truth of American history is as a violent, racist land of opportunism, and Americans try their best to rewrite it; history is written by the victors. There's a reason the film ends with Goggins reading Jackson's Lincoln letter,

[SHOW]

which we all know is BS but would rather believe in, because it's a comforting lie.

Other than that...well, it's Tarantino. Long, drawn out scenes of tense dialogue (moreso than any of his prior films). Violence and vulgarity. Great ensemble acting. Great cinematography. An honest-to-god Morricone score. You like the guy or don't. I'm surprised anybody who does wouldn't be down with this.

[Maclowery]

I agree with Third Man, but on the opposite site, perhaps. I have been on the love-it/hate-it see saw for pretty much every Tarantino film. Reservoir Dogs is such a great movie, but I will never get over that diner scene when Tarantino-as-himself unabashedly hates on the service industry for about 8 minutes. [expletive] you, Quentin, give her a tip. I have enjoyed his craft and suffered his miscues. I made it clear to my film-loving friends for both Inglorious Basterds and Django Unchained that I was over the Tarantino schtick and had no interest in a war movie (a genre I heavily avoid, as I never feel good after watching any quality one) or a revenge Western (kind of a lie, I secretly wanted to see Leo overact). Of course I still saw them both, enjoyed them both albeit a bit grudgingly - the brutality in both really threw me. I couldn't handle that dogs-killing-a-slave scene in Django.

I've read enough non-spoilery reviews to know that I would never, ever enjoy The Hateful Eight. It's going to be the first Tarantino movie I skipped. I just don't like Tarantino, as much as I really want to. He's pretty much a brilliant ass hole.

[cardsfansince82]

I didn't like Django Unchained much at all.

[stlouie_lipp]

I just don't like Tarantino, as much as I really want to.

This perfectly sums up my current relationship with his films.

[cardinalkarp]

I just don't like Tarantino, as much as I really want to.

This perfectly sums up my current relationship with his films.

I really liked all of his early films....Natural Born Killers (which oddly enough is still one of my favorite movies), Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, From Dusk Till Dawn, and I'm sure I'm missing one or two.....but the Kill Bill Era began I started to lose some interest for some reason.

[go birds]

natural born killers was oliver stone i thought

[Vidor]

Kill Bill Vol. 1 was the worst film I've ever seen in a theater.

[stlouie_lipp]

natural born killers was oliver stone i thought

QT wrote it.

[go birds]

huh....never know that.