movies

[Fat_Bulldog]

Jurassic World was fun. It was a movie about dinosaurs eating people and dinosaurs eating dinosaurs.

I don't need to be "moved" or feel a heartfelt connection with a character in a movie about dinosaurs eating people and dinosaurs eating dinosaurs.

This is like saying "let's take out everything that's great about Jaws and cut it down to the 20 minutes or so of shark attacks."

YES

[MrSaigon]

But I genuinely wondered if the little brother was supposed to be autistic for a minute. Sincerely. He had this weird numbers thing that never paid off in any way.

[Schlich]

Cytosine! Adenine! Guanine! Thymine!

[JoeMcKim]

The Tivoli theater shows more independent movies and it's no more then a 20-30 minute drive from most parts of St. Louis.

[MrSaigon]

I guess my point is, that if Jurassic World is something you'd be interested in if the characters were good, then you are cheating yourself by not getting over that and having fun.

I'm still trying to find my way around this argument. Obviously you have a much better idea of where how strong your desire to see dinosaurs meets your desire not to see movies with poor characters. At the same time it's hard for me to picture a scenario where this movie isn't fun for someone.

[ghostrunner]

I guess my point is, that if Jurassic World is something you'd be interested in if the characters were good, then you are cheating yourself by not getting over that and having fun.

I'm still trying to find my way around this argument. Obviously you have a much better idea of where how strong your desire to see dinosaurs meets your desire not to see movies with poor characters. At the same time it's hard for me to picture a scenario where this movie isn't fun for someone.

I haven't seen it, and I've seen Fury Road twice now. Second time this past weekend because my wife wanted to see it, but I probably would have chosen it over JW anyway. I've seen massive monsters in so many movies now. That massiveness itself is getting ridiculous by the way. Dinosaurs aren't especially compelling to me in and of themselves. With Spielberg directing and creating genuine suspense, I'm in. This Colin Trevorow guy who made a couple indie movies, now being paid by a studio to direct a blockbuster? Eh. And the philosophy just seems to be "make a lot more dinosaurs, and bigger." I'm prejudging it, but just speaking for myself that's not enough to get me in the theater to see the rest of it. I've got to have some sort of investment in the outcome. I went eagerly to Guardians of the Galaxy because it seemed like there was at least some effort put into creating good characters and some sense of joy and fun, in addition to blowing up cities real good.

Take Independence Day, or Transformers. Those are both horrible IMO, and it's largely because the characters are one-note or ham-fisted. You could say "Aliens are blowing up landmarks! What else do you need? " or the same for cars turning into robots. I'm not personally asking for a return to the 1970's and small character driven dramas, though that's a completely valid view too and just a little movement that way would be nice. Just put at least some effort into making real characters so I actually care if they live or die. I get that not everyone needs that, but I typically do.

[Schlich]

Shut up independence day is great

[ghostrunner]

Shut up independence day is great

It was a Michael Bay movie before there were Michael Bay movies.

[MrSaigon]

I guess my point is, that if Jurassic World is something you'd be interested in if the characters were good, then you are cheating yourself by not getting over that and having fun.

I'm still trying to find my way around this argument. Obviously you have a much better idea of where how strong your desire to see dinosaurs meets your desire not to see movies with poor characters. At the same time it's hard for me to picture a scenario where this movie isn't fun for someone.

I haven't seen it, and I've seen Fury Road twice now. Second time this past weekend because my wife wanted to see it, but I probably would have chosen it over JW anyway. I've seen massive monsters in so many movies now. That massiveness itself is getting ridiculous by the way. Dinosaurs aren't especially compelling to me in and of themselves. With Spielberg directing and creating genuine suspense, I'm in. This Colin Trevorow guy who made a couple indie movies, now being paid by a studio to direct a blockbuster? Eh. And the philosophy just seems to be "make a lot more dinosaurs, and bigger." I'm prejudging it, but just speaking for myself that's not enough to get me in the theater to see the rest of it. I've got to have some sort of investment in the outcome. I went eagerly to Guardians of the Galaxy because it seemed like there was at least some effort put into creating good characters and some sense of joy and fun, in addition to blowing up cities real good.

Take Independence Day, or Transformers. Those are both horrible IMO, and it's largely because the characters are one-note or ham-fisted. You could say "Aliens are blowing up landmarks! What else do you need? " or the same for cars turning into robots. I'm not personally asking for a return to the 1970's and small character driven dramas, though that's a completely valid view too and just a little movement that way would be nice. Just put at least some effort into making real characters so I actually care if they live or die. I get that not everyone needs that, but I typically do.

When lots of the people around me (because I choose to be around them, mostly) get a Class Five erection if a movie makes no promise other than looking like a curated thrift store, give me mf'ing dinosaurs. I've seen enough dysfunctional families and broken people.

That's not true of course. I take those on a dysfunctional family by dysfunctional family basis. But I set a Tomato Meter number for JW wrt seeing it in the theater and it doubled that, so I saw it and am super happy I did. I got back to a place when I was a very little boy and dinosaurs were my favorite thing ever.

Look at this poster, FFS:

[SHOW]

[Michael]

Shut up independence day is great

You're a horrible person