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Jocephus wrote:jaws had 3 sequels...so...
Don't make lousy sequels?

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JW is super fun. It's a love song to the original. And it's mf'ing dinosaurs, for crying out loud.

It definitely should have explored Chris Pratt's relationship with his father, and toiled over the questions of man vs. mortality in a more meaningful teased-out way. I personally wanted long, drawn out scenes about Jake Johnson's struggles with feelings of inadequacy--maybe a dark montage of him drinking alone and passed out in the floor of his bleak apartment.

Go watch it, and if you can't have fun you were never a child. It's mf'ing dinosaurs, for crying out loud.

And, I'll say it again: Michael Giacchino is the [expletive]. There was one weird music sequence toward the end that didn't seem to fit though.

EDIT: eat the fish and spit out the bones. The fish is very tasty. People have gotten incredibly good at doing this with Tarrantino, try it with a blockbuster.
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Some time back I commented here about how much the best picture of 1958, "Gigi", absolutely sucks ass. Just watched yet another better 1958 movie off of TCM--"The Fly" with Vincent Price. Genuinely creepy in a way that not much horror for back in the day is.

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MrSaigon wrote:JW is super fun. It's a love song to the original. And it's mf'ing dinosaurs, for crying out loud.

It definitely should have explored Chris Pratt's relationship with his father, and toiled over the questions of man vs. mortality in a more meaningful teased-out way. I personally wanted long, drawn out scenes about Jake Johnson's struggles with feelings of inadequacy--maybe a dark montage of him drinking alone and passed out in the floor of his bleak apartment.
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EDIT: eat the fish and spit out the bones. The fish is very tasty. People have gotten incredibly good at doing this with Tarrantino, try it with a blockbuster.
See, this just sounds like [expletive] writing. If you want to make a movie that's mostly action but has interesting characters, that can be done without trying to shoehorn divorce backstories into it out of nowhere. See Dredd, Fury Road, Kingsman, etc... Jaws luxuriates in character development compared to those, but they're still good. Characters can be developed in interesting ways without backstories. All that stuff you're talking about - man vs mortality, feelings of inadequacy - can be demonstrated without the character talking about mortality or feeling inadequate, or his parents divorcing. Watch an episode of the Walking Dead for god's sake. They practically spell out whatever moral dilemma they're in. It's boring.

Jaws is still a great suspenseful movie with a shark that explodes at the end. It also has great, interesting characters.

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ghostrunner wrote:
MrSaigon wrote:JW is super fun. It's a love song to the original. And it's mf'ing dinosaurs, for crying out loud.

It definitely should have explored Chris Pratt's relationship with his father, and toiled over the questions of man vs. mortality in a more meaningful teased-out way. I personally wanted long, drawn out scenes about Jake Johnson's struggles with feelings of inadequacy--maybe a dark montage of him drinking alone and passed out in the floor of his bleak apartment.
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EDIT: eat the fish and spit out the bones. The fish is very tasty. People have gotten incredibly good at doing this with Tarrantino, try it with a blockbuster.
See, this just sounds like [expletive] writing. If you want to make a movie that's mostly action but has interesting characters, that can be done without trying to shoehorn divorce backstories into it out of nowhere. See Dredd, Fury Road, Kingsman, etc... Jaws luxuriates in character development compared to those, but they're still good. Characters can be developed in interesting ways without backstories. All that stuff you're talking about - man vs mortality, feelings of inadequacy - can be demonstrated without the character talking about mortality or feeling inadequate, or his parents divorcing. Watch an episode of the Walking Dead for god's sake. They practically spell out whatever moral dilemma they're in. It's boring.

Jaws is still a great suspenseful movie with a shark that explodes at the end. It also has great, interesting characters.
They could have, but they didn't. It certainly would have been better if they did. Oh well. It's still super fun, and they brought everyone to the table with this movie. Fury Road probably did $Dick.50 overseas. MF'ing dinosaurs reach everyone. Broad archetypes go down easy across cultures.

I feel like if people can watch Tarrantino veer violently sideways to indulge his Jonah Hill scene, or the Rick Ross song in Django Unchained and still give it universal acclaim (where was the depth in any of those characters aside from Waltz's, by the way?), why not just spit out throw away lines about divorce and enjoy mf'ing dinosaurs stomping around? I am not comparing those films in terms of creative/artistic achievement, but in delivery of expectations.

I will say that the only thing I (vaguely) remember about the original Mad Max is the aesthetic. Maybe I've never even seen them. So Fury Road played out like the anti-comic book movie for me. I didn't know where anyone had come from. It didn't waste any time killing Uncle Ben, which was a big part of the charm for me. That movie was great.

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I guess my point is, that if Jurassic World is something you'd be interested in if the characters were good, then you are cheating yourself by not getting over that and having fun.

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for anyone who doesn't want an aneurysm from this blog's formatting:
Pixar, 1995: What if toys had feelings
Pixar, 1998: What if bugs had feelings
Pixar, 2001: What if monsters had feelings
Pixar, 2003: What if fish had feelings
Pixar, 2004: What if superheroes had feelings
Pixar, 2006: What if cars had feelings
Pixar, 2007: What if rats had feelings
Pixar, 2008: What if robots had feelings
Pixar, 2009: What if dogs had feelings
Pixar, 2012: What if Scotland had feelings
Pixar, 2015: WHAT IF FEELINGS HAD FEELINGS

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also i completely agree saigon

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