Former Cardinals Watch

[Radbird]

The list does say "right now". That's pretty much all it means, which is why Kershaw wasn't on the list because the key words are "right now".

[Socnorb11]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

[Magneto2.0]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

Well "4th best pitcher" list sounds better than "4th best results"

[Radbird]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

No but that is his BABIP right now. When it's not, he won't be on the list.

Not sure the concept is being understood here.

[Magneto2.0]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

No but that is his BABIP right now. When it's not, he won't be on the list.

Not sure the concept is being understood here.

Yeah I agree. Results is what matters on these lists, not what they're projected to do from here on. Miller has been one of the top 5 pitchers in the game based off results.

[Socnorb11]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

No but that is his BABIP right now. When it's not, he won't be on the list.

Not sure the concept is being understood here.

Maybe you can explain it to me. What makes him a top 10 pitcher "right now"? His ERA? Is that the measuring stick?

I don't think it's a given that the players getting the best results right now are the best players right now. I'm curious if deGrom was on the list, because he sure looked like the best pitcher "right now" in his last outing. How about Kyle Hendricks? He looked like the best pitcher "right now" when he pitched against San Diego on Thursday.

[Jocephus]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

No but that is his BABIP right now. When it's not, he won't be on the list.

Not sure the concept is being understood here.

Maybe you can explain it to me. What makes him a top 10 pitcher "right now"? His ERA? Is that the measuring stick?

I don't think it's a given that the players getting the best results right now are the best players right now. I'm curious if deGrom was on the list, because he sure looked like the best pitcher "right now" in his last outing. How about Kyle Hendricks? He looked like the best pitcher "right now" when he pitched against San Diego on Thursday.

you are overreacting. it's just a bit they do on the network.

[Socnorb11]

I'm not overreacting. I'm discussing. It's not a huge deal, I just disagree with the concept.

[Radbird]

Shelby isn't close to being the 4th best pitcher in baseball, even "right now".

Anybody think he's going to maintain that .183 BABIP against?

No but that is his BABIP right now. When it's not, he won't be on the list.

Not sure the concept is being understood here.

Maybe you can explain it to me. What makes him a top 10 pitcher "right now"? His ERA? Is that the measuring stick?

I don't think it's a given that the players getting the best results right now are the best players right now. I'm curious if deGrom was on the list, because he sure looked like the best pitcher "right now" in his last outing. How about Kyle Hendricks? He looked like the best pitcher "right now" when he pitched against San Diego on Thursday.

It's a list on MLBN. Brian Kenny presents it, so based on sabermetrics. That's all I know, just watched the show and posted what they said. Watch it or tweet Brian.

[Cheddar Tom]

Maybe you can explain it to me. What makes him a top 10 pitcher "right now"? His ERA? Is that the measuring stick?

Yes.